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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 07:45 #873874

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I'm a huge proponent of fabric wiring loom tape.  electrical tape doesn't hold up and leaves tons of slimy residue.

I believe there's also loom tape that only sticks to itself, rather than the wires.
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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 08:52 #873879

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EE 201 is the good, high temperature non adhesive, Elliot tape.  Sadly, discontinued.

From my experience with the OE harnesses, non-adhesive wrap is used for everything other than the ends, which typically use a couple of wraps of sticky electrical tape to seal the ends.
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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 13:36 #873888

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EE 201 is the good, high temperature non adhesive, Elliot tape.  Sadly, discontinued.

From my experience with the OE harnesses, non-adhesive wrap is used for everything other than the ends, which typically use a couple of wraps of sticky electrical tape to seal the ends.

Your experience coincides with my memory.  My Z1A harness was in very bad condition, I chose to go the repro route and ordered the harness and handlebar switches from Z1 Parts Inc.  I am very satisfied with the quality, and everything appears to work as it should.  

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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 14:34 #873892

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EE 201 is the good, high temperature non adhesive, Elliot tape.  Sadly, discontinued.

From my experience with the OE harnesses, non-adhesive wrap is used for everything other than the ends, which typically use a couple of wraps of sticky electrical tape to seal the ends.

Your experience coincides with my memory.  My Z1A harness was in very bad condition, I chose to go the repro route and ordered the harness and handlebar switches from Z1 Parts Inc.  I am very satisfied with the quality, and everything appears to work as it should.  

Mike

 
Thanks for the input. I’m practicing on this harness/Loom to get my A4 as factory correct as possible. So my thoughts are correct the OEM was non adhesive wrap for 90% with adhesive tape at the beginning and termination of the non adhesive wrap. Next question is where to source that non adhesive wrap. Then technique. I witnessed the non adhesive wrap as started at the connector end of the branch, one or two full wraps (to use Wookies description) square to the loom and wound overlapping towards the main loom with the tag end terminating on the main loom and then adhesive taped in place. Then as Wookie says the main wrap covers the branch wrap. It there a better choice then Elliot tape to terminate the non adhesive covering?
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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 19:21 #873902

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" It there a better choice then Elliot tape to terminate the non adhesive covering?"  Japanese electrical tape of course Matt!  The bit of a roll that I have left is "DENKA" brand. No idea if it was used on the harnesses 40+ years ago, but it is really nice tape.

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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 19:24 #873903

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I just checked Matt,  DENKA tape comes up on a Google search!

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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 19:35 #873904

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Moss Motors sells non adhesive electrical tape for MG's and other British sports cars.
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1976 Kz 900 A4 14 Sep 2022 20:42 #873908

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I use silicone tape.  You stretch it and it then sticks only to itself.  It does not stick to wires and leave a sticky mess.  It works great.  Ed
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1976 Kz 900 A4 15 Sep 2022 12:54 #873938

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Amalgamating tape from plumbers/builders merchants. Only sticks to itself and the "stickyness" is only activated when you stretch it.
So stretch a couple of turns at the start, then move along at 45 degs stretching as you go. End off with a couple more turns. 100% waterproof as it seals to itself. 

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1976 Kz 900 A4 15 Sep 2022 18:16 #873947

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Thanks for the research, and suggestions. 

The source came up when searching for the Elliot 201 tape Nessism suggested, here’s the site I found 

www.wiringharness.com/

I called tech support, a great guy answered, very knowledgeable and helpful. I placed an order for 3/4” non adhesive wrap. I figured if it’s good for reproduction classic car harnesses then it should work for me. Follow up to come once I receive the product.

Edit: Caught up on my thank you’s for the recent suggestions. Appreciate all the replies.
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1976 Kz 900 A4 23 Sep 2022 20:35 #874386

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So the 3/4” wide non adhesive tape arrived. Gloss black, looks just like OEM. Sneaky SOB’s peeled the first layer of paper off the ID of the roll removing the manufacture name. I was gonna post if anyone was interested. Might be a minute for me to get to this. Football season, with 3 grandchildren involved. One in cheer and the to older boys one in city ball a the other playing high school. Helping and watching pretty much fills up my weekends. Updates to follow. 
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1976 Kz 900 A4 23 Sep 2022 21:50 #874388

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google F-4 tape. When stretched ,it sticks to itself. Never gummy. when I worked on F-4D's in the Air Force, it came in red-orange or black. Never found out why.
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