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10 Jul 2011 11:20 - 10 Jul 2011 11:27 #462020
by Old Man Rock
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic Can't get glossy finish
Cant speak in regards to humidity but here's what I did on plastic, tank and chromed head light shell with exceptional results. I believe Mark1122 has followed the same guide lines with beautimuss (see his tank) results.
Break down...
Paint then let fully cure (follow directions) 3-5 days.
Wet sand to remove blemishes, particles, paint dust bunnies etc...
Then clear coats (non can 2-3 part)
Let fully cure (follow directions) 24 hours.
Wet sand to remove blemishes, particles, paint dust bunnies etc...
Then wet sand again, add some clear if you chose...
Let fully cure (follow directions) 24 hours.
Wet sand to remove blemishes, particles, paint dust bunnies etc...
Then buff out with rubbing compound!
Add wax and she'll shine just fine....
Head Light Shell Can Paint
Here's some others where I got the concept from regarding wet sand between coats...
Tank Prep - Paint
Good luck!
Break down...
Paint then let fully cure (follow directions) 3-5 days.
Wet sand to remove blemishes, particles, paint dust bunnies etc...
Then clear coats (non can 2-3 part)
Let fully cure (follow directions) 24 hours.
Wet sand to remove blemishes, particles, paint dust bunnies etc...
Then wet sand again, add some clear if you chose...
Let fully cure (follow directions) 24 hours.
Wet sand to remove blemishes, particles, paint dust bunnies etc...
Then buff out with rubbing compound!
Add wax and she'll shine just fine....
Head Light Shell Can Paint
Here's some others where I got the concept from regarding wet sand between coats...
Tank Prep - Paint
Good luck!
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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10 Jul 2011 13:12 #462051
by mark1122
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
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Replied by mark1122 on topic Can't get glossy finish
omr.
i used a combo of both on my tank. i started with the good 2 pt urethane stuff. then when i could not get the candy red to match the duplicolor red, i used the duplicolor red over the urethane black silver and clear. then i used the 2 pt urethane clear over top again.
Would u please reframe from posting pics of your bike. My key board keeps getting gooey when ever u do that.
:woohoo:
i used a combo of both on my tank. i started with the good 2 pt urethane stuff. then when i could not get the candy red to match the duplicolor red, i used the duplicolor red over the urethane black silver and clear. then i used the 2 pt urethane clear over top again.
Would u please reframe from posting pics of your bike. My key board keeps getting gooey when ever u do that.
:woohoo:
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.
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10 Jul 2011 14:20 #462068
by Old Man Rock
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
Replied by Old Man Rock on topic Can't get glossy finish
Seriously Mark compared to what you've accomplished on that tank... Shit brother, no comparison...
Speaking of which, where's the final images of that phenominally gorgeous tank...
Unfortunately, I don't come on line as much any longer so I obviously missed it... You do a write up on it? link?
Share the knowledge mi amigo....
Speaking of which, where's the final images of that phenominally gorgeous tank...
Unfortunately, I don't come on line as much any longer so I obviously missed it... You do a write up on it? link?
Share the knowledge mi amigo....
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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10 Jul 2011 14:57 #462073
by loudhvx
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Replied by loudhvx on topic Can't get glossy finish
With 90 degree temps, you're gonna have to spray fast and heavy. (Which means you will have to really really guard against runs.) The paint is going to want to dry in the air if you spray light. That creates a dusty looking finish.
When it's that hot, you have to work fast to cover since one area will dry while your spraying another, and the overspray will not blend.
When it's that hot, you have to work fast to cover since one area will dry while your spraying another, and the overspray will not blend.
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10 Jul 2011 23:52 #462164
by racer54
1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110
Replied by racer54 on topic Can't get glossy finish
If you look real close while you are spraying, you can see the paint going on wet or dry. It will have that dull look and you can manipulate your stroke to some degree to get around it. Start on one side and go to other side in one job. Don't start on left side...go to top...and then start on right side and go to top. Keep going from left to right, for example, and look at an angle and you can see how the paint is going on and work the paint spray to get rid of a lot of that dull look.
1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110
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11 Jul 2011 10:32 - 11 Jul 2011 10:35 #462224
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1979 KZ750 Twin
2009 Kawasaki Versys
Replied by Topper on topic Can't get glossy finish
Well the side covers seem to have come out pretty well. I'm not done with them yet. I want to let the clear coat cure then I hope to hit them with a couple coats of the 2 part clear (when it arrives) then cure again and polish.
They actually look better in person than the photos. The color is duplicolor mazda black mica. So it's mostly black with some colorful metallic flecks in there.
I hope the tank comes out this good. It's got its color coat, but I'm waiting for the 2k clear to arrive before clear coating it. Couldn't wait on the side covers though, I'm impatient and wanted to see what they'd look like with some clear on them.
They actually look better in person than the photos. The color is duplicolor mazda black mica. So it's mostly black with some colorful metallic flecks in there.
I hope the tank comes out this good. It's got its color coat, but I'm waiting for the 2k clear to arrive before clear coating it. Couldn't wait on the side covers though, I'm impatient and wanted to see what they'd look like with some clear on them.
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11 Jul 2011 10:48 - 11 Jul 2011 10:50 #462229
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1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Replied by Kidkawie on topic Can't get glossy finish
BTW - Duplicolor top coat, as well as most newer top coats, require a clear coat. So you won't get any sort of shine with just the top coat.
Repainting is very simple as long as you keep it clean and dust free and don't rush things.
If the current paint on your part has good adhesion, no flaking or peeling, then you can just wetsand that finish, dry, tack rag, and apply a primer/sealer coat if your changing the color drastically or you did repair. Wet sand that and tack. Then apply 2-3 coated of top coat, let completely dry and wet sand to 1000-1500 grit. Apply clear coat in 2-3 coats, wet sand to 2000 to knock down any peel, then buff with polish and wax.
This was my tank when I started, good adhesion on the paint but the clear lifted, so I just wet sanded down the clear coat.
Applying top coats in stages, sanding in between
Right before clear was applied, wet sanded with 1500
The clear was applied, wet sanded with 2000, then polished with a wheel and waxed.
Repainting is very simple as long as you keep it clean and dust free and don't rush things.
If the current paint on your part has good adhesion, no flaking or peeling, then you can just wetsand that finish, dry, tack rag, and apply a primer/sealer coat if your changing the color drastically or you did repair. Wet sand that and tack. Then apply 2-3 coated of top coat, let completely dry and wet sand to 1000-1500 grit. Apply clear coat in 2-3 coats, wet sand to 2000 to knock down any peel, then buff with polish and wax.
This was my tank when I started, good adhesion on the paint but the clear lifted, so I just wet sanded down the clear coat.
Applying top coats in stages, sanding in between
Right before clear was applied, wet sanded with 1500
The clear was applied, wet sanded with 2000, then polished with a wheel and waxed.
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Last edit: 11 Jul 2011 10:50 by Kidkawie.
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