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22 Sep 2009 16:30 #323309 by PLUMMEN
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isnt the chassis paint more satin than gloss ? B)

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22 Sep 2009 16:53 #323316 by toadson
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If I were to paint a frame I would use some good urethane based paint. It would be the toughest paint you could get I would think, plus it should be resistant to many chemicals.

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22 Sep 2009 17:12 #323322 by Old Man Rock
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Dupli-Color Wheel Paint...

Stuff actually didn't chip through flat blade screwdriver testing....:cheer:

Only downfall...limited colors...
Didn't matter for me though for I wanted flat black, no gloss... They do have a clear for it if preference is gloss.

Pro & Con...

Con:
Paint is not as durable as powder coat, no doubt...

PRO:
Powder coat can go to crap on you just as paint can... Downfall is once it does, you're screwed!

Powder coat can & will cover stress fractures/ cracks in the frame welds...

If you need to mod/fab... Paint can be stripped, welded/fabbed, re-painted and no one knows the difference.

With paint, if you happen to do get a scuff/scratch down to frame/primer, no big deal, mask and touch up, all good... Same scenario in powder, you're screwed!

Almost forgot...
Powder $$$ ~ $200 plus... Here in AZ, quoted at $300 :blink:

Paint @ ~ $6 a can plus primer, $50 max....:woohoo:

Just my two worthless cents....

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22 Sep 2009 21:22 #323423 by oldkaws4ever
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Pfaelzer wrote:

That looks great - are you talking Rattle-Can Duplicolor aluminum ?
I did a BMW R 75/5 frame in 1975 with Rattle Can Silver and a friend of mine is still riding it.
oldkaws4ever wrote:

When i re-did my z1 last winter, i painted the frame with a duplicolor aluminum. It's holding up really well.


Yup regular rattle can duplicolor aluminum, and lots of hi temp clear coat.

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23 Sep 2009 04:42 #323445 by 9am53
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interesting. If I did sandblast it could I just spray my colour, or do I need to prime it?

I saw that duplicolour wheel paint at crappy-tire last night, it did look good.

Here is a problem I just thought of, I will be doing this this winter, it gets cold up here, so I will be doing all my work in a garage hgeated with a big propane heater...I think this will not let the paint cure properly and/or blow me up...I may have to ask to paint it in my buddies basement.

Allthough the aluminum looks great I think I will stick with black, I think satin black to be exact, that way if I do sell her she will still look somewhat original.

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23 Sep 2009 05:11 #323447 by chance
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PLUMMEN wrote:

isnt the chassis paint more satin than gloss ? B)

They have gloss or satin black..

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23 Sep 2009 05:23 #323450 by chance
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9am53 wrote:

interesting. If I did sandblast it could I just spray my colour, or do I need to prime it?

I saw that duplicolour wheel paint at crappy-tire last night, it did look good.

Here is a problem I just thought of, I will be doing this this winter, it gets cold up here, so I will be doing all my work in a garage hgeated with a big propane heater...I think this will not let the paint cure properly and/or blow me up...I may have to ask to paint it in my buddies basement.

Allthough the aluminum looks great I think I will stick with black, I think satin black to be exact, that way if I do sell her she will still look somewhat original.

Yes prime bare metal with acid etching black epoxy primer. It's onlt 10 bucks a can .it wll etch itself into the metal and will never peel and it doesn't Chip easy. If you use your heater warm the area and shut it off when you spray

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23 Sep 2009 05:35 #323452 by 9am53
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chance wrote:

9am53 wrote:

interesting. If I did sandblast it could I just spray my colour, or do I need to prime it?

I saw that duplicolour wheel paint at crappy-tire last night, it did look good.

Here is a problem I just thought of, I will be doing this this winter, it gets cold up here, so I will be doing all my work in a garage hgeated with a big propane heater...I think this will not let the paint cure properly and/or blow me up...I may have to ask to paint it in my buddies basement.

Allthough the aluminum looks great I think I will stick with black, I think satin black to be exact, that way if I do sell her she will still look somewhat original.

Yes prime bare metal with acid etching black epoxy primer. It's onlt 10 bucks a can .it wll etch itself into the metal and will never peel and it doesn't Chip easy. If you use your heater warm the area and shut it off when you spray


If I heat the room up and then spray, it will be below freezing within a short time period...would that not adversly affect the solvent evaporation of the paint?

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23 Sep 2009 06:19 #323458 by chance
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That cold huh. I spray paint in a booth with one of those diesel jet heaters and have never had any problems. And thats with alot of fog in the booth I don't think you'll have any problems with rattle cans.If your worried about flash fire Ive been painting for 34 years and have never seen a fire but I would try to vent a little. you will need the temp to be at least 68 or 70 to cure

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23 Sep 2009 07:02 #323464 by 9am53
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OK, I am taking the bike off the road this week so if I start right away at taking it apart I should be warm enough for that for sure.

I am getting my new exhaust header sandblasted today, I was going to VHT flat black it...do I need to prime the header before painting it since it will be down to bare metal? I figure the header paint doesn't need primer, any ideas?

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23 Sep 2009 13:59 #323527 by chance
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No the header paint needs no primer.

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