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Re: Lets play
28 Aug 2010 21:54
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Ditto. But I think I made that clear already.
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Ditto. But I think I made that clear already.
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Re: Lets play
28 Aug 2010 22:11
Done deal, gimme a couple of weeks while the parts come in.
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Re: Lets play
28 Aug 2010 22:26
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OMR had the mono shock three times so far.....seems that one never learns
M357.5 wrote:Rear shock.....piston seperating oil/gas in res.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
Now that I have your attention, who is interested in a writeup on rebuilding a mono-shock?
OMR had the mono shock three times so far.....seems that one never learns
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Re: Lets play
30 Aug 2010 11:10
Quick update for those who are interested. I just got off the phone with Race Tech, and I should have my parts by this weekend. I should have the write-up in short order. Keep your eyes peeled for an appropriately titled thread with the rebuild.
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Re: Lets play
30 Aug 2010 12:05
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Isn't it the bladder?
Rear shock.....piston seperating oil/gas in res.
Isn't it the bladder?
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Re: Lets play
30 Aug 2010 12:32
Yes officially it's called the bladder, but I knew what he meant. I was just trying to have a little fun on a Saturday night and gauge interest in a mono-shock rebuild thread. I wasn't sure if anyone here would be interested in such a thing since a KZ doesn't have a mono-shock. I did one for a USD fork a while back and it didn't seem to get too much interest. Mostly of interest to us who have "hybrid" bikes.
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Re: Lets play
30 Aug 2010 14:15
After you rebuild it, for street use you might be able to get away with filling it with argon instead of nitrogen. I heard of some offreoaders doing that and not having an issue. I run straight argon for my little mig because I do some aluminum too.
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Re: Lets play
30 Aug 2010 16:18
It's funny that you mention that Kidkawie. I wasn't planning on getting into that discussion until I started the rebuild thread, but since you brought it up...
I had no nitrogen pressure whatsoever in this shock. Not surprising since it's a 15 yr old peice, but in my research I discovered numerous cases of new GSXR owners with no discernible pressure in their shocks as well. One has to wonder how well these things actually retain their pressure, and what effect it has on the handling. I guess that the biggest effect will be the loss of dampening due to foaming oil. I have done some reading about the whole compressed air vs. nitrogen thing, and I must say that in theory the nitrogen has advantages. However, you can't argue that air is 78% nitrogen, and this is a very small volume. Based on the construction of this bladder, I'm not sure that it could be expected to reliably hold 175 lbs of pressure for any length of time anyway.
I'll probably have it charged at a local shop, but I find the discussion worthy of further research. I also look forward to the rebuild of the shock on my zx-10r to see if there is, in fact, any pressure left in that shock. I will say that as I ride that bike for extended periods, I notice that the ride does get more harsh.
I have a feeling that I just lit the campfire. :evil:
I had no nitrogen pressure whatsoever in this shock. Not surprising since it's a 15 yr old peice, but in my research I discovered numerous cases of new GSXR owners with no discernible pressure in their shocks as well. One has to wonder how well these things actually retain their pressure, and what effect it has on the handling. I guess that the biggest effect will be the loss of dampening due to foaming oil. I have done some reading about the whole compressed air vs. nitrogen thing, and I must say that in theory the nitrogen has advantages. However, you can't argue that air is 78% nitrogen, and this is a very small volume. Based on the construction of this bladder, I'm not sure that it could be expected to reliably hold 175 lbs of pressure for any length of time anyway.
I'll probably have it charged at a local shop, but I find the discussion worthy of further research. I also look forward to the rebuild of the shock on my zx-10r to see if there is, in fact, any pressure left in that shock. I will say that as I ride that bike for extended periods, I notice that the ride does get more harsh.
I have a feeling that I just lit the campfire. :evil:
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Re: Lets play
05 Sep 2010 15:18
interesting.
i wonder if u would even notice on the street.?
a stock harley feels fine on the street, but isnt much good at the track.
i wonder if u would even notice on the street.?
a stock harley feels fine on the street, but isnt much good at the track.
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Re: Lets play
05 Sep 2010 16:03
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Mark I definitely notice the suspension "feel" change as I ride my other bike on the street. Either a long ride or a hard ride will make it feel quite harsh. I know what's inside the fork on that bike, but I haven't touched the shock yet, and it's overdue for a rebuild. I would suspect that foaming oil that has lost it's viscosity from overuse could contribute to a loss of dampening.
interesting.
i wonder if u would even notice on the street.?
a stock harley feels fine on the street, but isnt much good at the track.
Mark I definitely notice the suspension "feel" change as I ride my other bike on the street. Either a long ride or a hard ride will make it feel quite harsh. I know what's inside the fork on that bike, but I haven't touched the shock yet, and it's overdue for a rebuild. I would suspect that foaming oil that has lost it's viscosity from overuse could contribute to a loss of dampening.
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