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19 May 2009 10:32 #292660 by athlonwirez
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I'm thinking about converting to DOT5. Is it possible to flush the old fluid out(DOT3) with DOT5 until there is only DOT5 in the system? Or would I need to replace hoses and seals? I will be rebuilding the master cylinder anyway.

1978 LTD Partial Restoration in Process. (Do not have orginal exhaust)

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19 May 2009 10:53 #292670 by RonKZ650
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Sure you can do that. I'm sure there will be argument "they don't mix". The truth is you can pump most the dot3 out until the master cylinder is near empty, add dot5, repeat until you're sure only dot5 is being pumped out. I put dot5 in all my old Kawasakis when dot5 was first seen. When was that? I guess the mid 80s. I've never had one brake problem using dot5.

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19 May 2009 11:55 #292681 by athlonwirez
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Thanks Ron!

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19 May 2009 11:59 #292684 by otakar
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I used to run DOT 5 years ago because I thought that being silicone would protect things better. The problem is on the contrary. Everything I put DOT 5 into corroded. The problem with DOT 5 is that it will NOT absorb moisture. This will cause the moisture to settle out and cause massive corrosion in the places it settles. You would be much better to use DOT 4+ this fluid seams the best of both worlds.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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19 May 2009 12:27 #292686 by timebomb33
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even harley doesn't use it anymore they have switched back to dot4 it may be due to the fact that they have abs now i'm not sure,all i know is they switched back.

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19 May 2009 13:31 #292697 by athlonwirez
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Really the only reason I'm interested is the fact it will not mess up the paint on the front master cylinder. I'm due for a rebuild, and it will need to be painted.

1978 LTD Partial Restoration in Process. (Do not have orginal exhaust)

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19 May 2009 15:37 #292714 by PLUMMEN
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RonKZ650 wrote:

Sure you can do that. I'm sure there will be argument "they don't mix". The truth is you can pump most the dot3 out until the master cylinder is near empty, add dot5, repeat until you're sure only dot5 is being pumped out. I put dot5 in all my old Kawasakis when dot5 was first seen. When was that? I guess the mid 80s. I've never had one brake problem using dot5.

ditto,weve had many debates over this but ive never had problems B)

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19 May 2009 17:46 #292744 by franknsr
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Same here. I rebuilt my master then flushed out the line and caliper with dot 5. Never had an issue.

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1991 KZ1000P
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1986 ZG1000
1982 650 CSR -shoulda kept this one-
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19 May 2009 18:34 #292765 by rstnick
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I had DOT5 put in front and rear when my brakes were rebuilt in the 80's.
My bike sat for 10 years from '94 ~ '04. When I got her back on the road, the brakes worked fine, no siezing or other problems.

Rob
CANADA

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20 May 2009 10:55 #292886 by 650ed
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Otakar is right. DOT5 doesn't absorb moisture so the moisture that enters the brake system will "puddle" and cause corrosion. Obviously, some folks here have used DOT5 with good results; maybe they're not in a high humidity environment, who knows. DOT5 high a very high boiling temp and is often used in racing appplications, but racers change their brake fluid often thus purging the water. It's your choice, but in my location I wouldn't risk it. If you stick with DOT 3 or 4 just be careful not to spill it on our paint. Ed

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20 May 2009 11:36 #292891 by otakar
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Dot 4+ is a synthetic which should not harm the paint.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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20 May 2009 15:24 #292931 by PLUMMEN
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just keep the trash flushed out of your system every spring with the dot5 and youll be fine B)

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