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10 Dec 2005 19:39 #12565 by NightRider
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I have a 1981 KZ650 H1.

I recently aquired the front fork assembly and mag wheel from a 1980 KZ750, dual disks. The system slid right in with a Brembo lever and master. I have a drum brake style spoked rear now and want to know what model mags can fit my bike for the aft end. I would like to also upgrade the system to disk brake in the rear. Any help is apreciated.

Thanks

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10 Dec 2005 20:22 #12573 by wireguy
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would the back wheel and swingarm off a 650 work,or a 1000 ltd ?i know you can mount a 1000 swingarm on a 650 for a longer swingarm,but ive never had any experience with the 750.goodluck,happy wrenching!oops i thought we were dealing with a 750!you can use the swingarm and wheel off a diskbrake 650,or if you want a litle stretch go with a 1000 swingarm it will give you about 2 extra inches but youll need a longer chain to go with it.

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11 Dec 2005 04:29 #12595 by guitargeek
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wireguy wrote:

if you want a litle stretch go with a 1000 swingarm it will give you about 2 extra inches


Reallllllly...! Interesting! Does the same hold true for my 750? What with all these guys around here putting GS1100 swingarms on their KZ1000s, perhaps I could score one for cheap, hmmm?

(strokes chin thoughtfully)

1980 KZ750-H1 (slightly altered)
1987 KZ1000-P6 "Ponch"
1979 GS1000 "Dadzuki"

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11 Dec 2005 06:10 #12606 by steell
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According to buykawasaki.com the 81 KZ650 and the 80 KZ750 (Four) use the same swingarm pivot bolt and sleeve, so the disk brake swingarm off a 750 shoul just be a bolt on. You are still going to have to figure out how you are going to mount the master cylinder though.

KZ750/KZ1000 swap I'm looking up now.

Ok, looks like the 80 KZ750 and the 77-80 KZ1000 use the same needle bearings in the swingarm, but different sleeves and pivot bolts, my guess is the 1000 swingarm is a little wider at the pivot.

Post edited by: steell, at: 2005/12/11 09:19

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11 Dec 2005 20:10 #12703 by wireguy
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i know the older 650s,70s will take a 1000 swingarm ive done it before but im not sure about 750s

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12 Dec 2005 15:21 #12805 by DanOz7Five0
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I put the swingarm and rear disc brake wheel from a 1980 750 LTD (H model) onto my 77 650B without a problem. I did have to do some (umm looking for PC term here) shadetree engineering to get the master cylinder and fluid resevior (mine were 2 seperate parts, some arent though) set up. I ended up bolting the cylinder to an extra motor mount, getting some threaded rod to work between the pedal and the master cylinder. Then the resevior is mounted on a peice of aluminum that hangs right behind the battery.

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13 Dec 2005 04:43 #12916 by NightRider
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Thanks for the info...

I figured I'd have to create a braket for the master cylinder. Just having trouble locating that rear rim...

For those helping me out I say many thanks, some think I'm working on a 750 but alas it's a 650...I posted my naked machine in the 650 gallery.

Ride hard!

Brian

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13 Dec 2005 04:53 #12918 by rstnick
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I have the rear Mag wheel off of a '79 650C3, but have sold the Cush/Crush ? drive as well as the 2 spacers on either side. Also the swing arm from the C3 if you need, or other parts ie: rear master cylinder, caliper (would need rebuilding).

Rob
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1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, 18" Z1R front wheel.
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13 Dec 2005 13:08 #12984 by DanVVArider
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For what little stopping is actually done with the rear wheel/brake system, I wouldn't bother changing from drum to disc. And there are plenty of KZ650/750 mag rears out there that have the additional bonus of downsixing from the stock 18 inches down to 16 inches, which not only lowers the sky-high ass end, it lets you use shorter shocks, too--which lowers the bike even more!

"CHOP 'TIL YA DROP!"

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13 Dec 2005 13:40 #12992 by reborn650
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Personally I like the sky-high ass end on my 77650 Custom, but then again I have alwalys been a rear end man:)
If you can get your hands on a set of factory mags for the 650 with the rear disk brake, that would be my recommendation for the best looks/braking combination. Not ony are they the best looking wheel style ever made (in my opinion) you will appreciate the beefy disk if you ever run into a panic stop.
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13 Dec 2005 13:47 #12994 by NightRider
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Thanks...

I'll stick with the drum brakes for ease of installation. If anyone comes across a mag wheel, 16 inch...gimme a shout.

Brian

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13 Dec 2005 15:25 #13004 by wireguy
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most 16" wheels are just as tall if not taller than 18" because the sidewalls are so tall.a 18"with a lower profile normally handle better than a 16" and will fill up the fender better!

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