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15 Mar 2017 08:16 - 15 Mar 2017 08:20 #756791
by loudhvx
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Replied by loudhvx on topic Hold my beer, I got this
I thought I would add this image in case anyone was curious (yeah right) and didn't want to wade through the entire page I linked to above.
This is an idealized look at the instantaneous system voltage for a Kz with a 3-phase permanent magnet alternator, and electronic ignition. The ignition affects the voltage by pulling down the voltage in a downward ramp as each coil charges. The electronic ignitions, near idle, apply dwell for very roughly about 1/4 of a crank rotation. If this were a points bike, the ramp would be for about 1/2 of a crank rotation.
This is the cleaned up version of the image posted earlier, but not including the shunt events.
This is an idealized look at the instantaneous system voltage for a Kz with a 3-phase permanent magnet alternator, and electronic ignition. The ignition affects the voltage by pulling down the voltage in a downward ramp as each coil charges. The electronic ignitions, near idle, apply dwell for very roughly about 1/4 of a crank rotation. If this were a points bike, the ramp would be for about 1/2 of a crank rotation.
This is the cleaned up version of the image posted earlier, but not including the shunt events.
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
Other links.
Last edit: 15 Mar 2017 08:20 by loudhvx.
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16 Mar 2017 17:24 #756905
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1981 KZ750 LTD
Replied by Irish Yobbo on topic Hold my beer, I got this
Thanks for linking that site loudhvx (is it yours?), there's a huge amount of useful information there. Also very interesting to see the waveforms from a bike charging system, I've only ever done so with a car, and the much larger battery seemed to reduce the ripple a little more than this.
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16 Mar 2017 17:47 #756908
by loudhvx
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Replied by loudhvx on topic Hold my beer, I got this
Yes, that is my site. Thanks for the compliment.
And yes, that is true, a car type regulation system will have less overall ripple.
A car type regulator (also used on a few Kz's) only has ripple from the tops of the rectifier pulses. The shunt regulator, in addition to the normal ripple, has a much larger "ripple" from the shunting. When a shunt regulator induces a shunt, it is temporarily losing control of the overall voltage by creating a brief "dead spot" in the voltage/current from the alternator.
And yes, that is true, a car type regulation system will have less overall ripple.
A car type regulator (also used on a few Kz's) only has ripple from the tops of the rectifier pulses. The shunt regulator, in addition to the normal ripple, has a much larger "ripple" from the shunting. When a shunt regulator induces a shunt, it is temporarily losing control of the overall voltage by creating a brief "dead spot" in the voltage/current from the alternator.
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
Other links.
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