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Gremlins!

25 Sep 2015 18:54
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78 kz650c2. Hello again fellas. I'm having some electrical issues. I was riding last week when my bike started to run like shit. I took the points cover off and noticed some major arcing at the points. Figured the condenser was shot so I ordered a new one and new points as well. Hooked them up but I still have an issue.

When I turn on the ignition, my lights all work, but when I turn the killswitch on, the lights go dim and voltage at the battery goes down to about 3v. However I noticed that when I open whatever point is currently closed, the voltage returns to normal. There is power getting to them. I checked my connections and all were good. Not sure where to go from here.
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Re: Gremlins!

25 Sep 2015 19:11
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How do I go about testing those? Check the resistance in the coils?
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Re: Gremlins!

25 Sep 2015 19:13
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First unplug them, then do the OHM test.
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Re: Gremlins!

25 Sep 2015 19:15
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could they both have fried from the condenser failing? Seems unlikely but I'm no expert. When I hooked up a different cool, the problem persisted.
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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 10:29
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Ok so, I checked both coils and they're with the specified resistance range. And they've got power going in and power coming out. But as soon as I hook them up, the voltage just drops. I've tried several other coils as well, same results. As soon as they're grounded is when the voltage drops
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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 11:14
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vondikka wrote: Ok so, I checked both coils and they're with the specified resistance range. And they've got power going in and power coming out. But as soon as I hook them up, the voltage just drops. I've tried several other coils as well, same results. As soon as they're grounded is when the voltage drops
Slip a piece of paper in between the two points if you have them connected. The points being grounded complete the circuit and there will be a large voltage drop across 3-5 ohms at 12 v.
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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 14:46
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Yes, that's what happens. Open the point and the voltage drops
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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 16:08 - 26 Sep 2015 16:16
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Have you got a service manual for your bike?
Go through some of the ignition tests.
If you don't have a manual, I can post up some troubleshooting info.

Do check that the ground wire off the battery's negative terminal to the engine/frame mount is making a good, clean and tight connection on both ends.

Oh, and get yourself, no scratch that, get someone to give you (they work better that way, supposedly) a Gremlin Bell.
Supposed to keep Gremlins away.
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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 16:40
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Oh! Now I know what those bells are for! My friends bike had one on it when he bought it.

But yeah, I have the manual . I've run some tests already according to the manual, but I'm not entirely familiar with the terminology, so I'm not very confident in all my results . For example for testing ohms, it recommends setting the tester to Rx1 and Rx100 but the tester I have has settings like 20m, 200k, 20k etc. not sure how to convert that.

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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 16:47
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what are the readings supposed to be? and list exactly what settings your meter has... i can help
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Re: Gremlins!

26 Sep 2015 16:48
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20M = 20,000,000 ohms.
200K = 200,000 ohms.
20K = 20,000 ohms
2K = 2000 0hms
200 = 200 ohms
etc

You are looking for a setting that gives a reading that makes sense around 22,000 ohms to 26,000 ohms.
Maybe the 200K setting.
The resistance of the primary in your coil should be around 22,000 to 24,000 ohms....
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