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Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 08:23
I´ve bought last August Dyna-s, Dyna wires and green coils. After the installation my bike (KZ650) rans really great but now i´ve loosen 2 cylinders (1 and 4). I´ve checked all and the problem seems to be a failure on a Dyna-S (1-4) module:
-Module 1-4: magnet facing the sensor: 0.94 Volts, and magnet pointing away from modules: 10.61 Volts
-Module 2-3: magnet facing the sensor: 0 Volts, and magnet pointing away from modules: 10.50 Volts (checking at the coils)
Am I right?
Any suggestions or info would be appreciated.
-Module 1-4: magnet facing the sensor: 0.94 Volts, and magnet pointing away from modules: 10.61 Volts
-Module 2-3: magnet facing the sensor: 0 Volts, and magnet pointing away from modules: 10.50 Volts (checking at the coils)
Am I right?
Any suggestions or info would be appreciated.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 09:26
I believe those to be acceptable levels. Here are two things you can do to diagnose if it is a pickup or coil problem.
- Take all plugs out and lay them on the case so you can check for spark while doing this.
To check pickups and coils.
- Switch the outputs of the Dyna and see if the the problem follows the output. If the problem switches to the other coil, then you have a bad pickup. If it does not then you more then likely have a bad coil.
Im guessing bad coil. Be sure to check voltage inputs on coil.
- Take all plugs out and lay them on the case so you can check for spark while doing this.
To check pickups and coils.
- Switch the outputs of the Dyna and see if the the problem follows the output. If the problem switches to the other coil, then you have a bad pickup. If it does not then you more then likely have a bad coil.
Im guessing bad coil. Be sure to check voltage inputs on coil.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 09:33
If not already done, would also assure sufficient space (or insulation) between ignition coil primary terminals and mounting spacers.
With Dyna coils, the heads of the screws that attach the wires to the primary terminals of the ignition coil are sometimes too close to a mounting spacer, which causes a short to ground and thereby prevents the ignition coil from functioning.
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With Dyna coils, the heads of the screws that attach the wires to the primary terminals of the ignition coil are sometimes too close to a mounting spacer, which causes a short to ground and thereby prevents the ignition coil from functioning.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 15:04
There are spark on 2 and 3 but not in 1 and 4 cylinders. Primary and secondary resistance checks are ok on both coils. There are sufficient space between ignition coil primary terminals and mounting spacers. And yes, i checked the voltage inputs on coils, but i think those 0.94 Volts should be 0.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 16:02Coil could still be bad. Switch the wiring to the coils and see if the problem stays with the coil or moves.leitz wrote: There are spark on 2 and 3 but not in 1 and 4 cylinders. Primary and secondary resistance checks are ok on both coils.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 16:44
Bountyhunter, i´ve Switched the wiring and both coils seem to be ok
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 22:41
sounds like it's the pickup or ig module.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
08 Nov 2011 22:46
Where either coil will fire its two plugs when attached to the signal wire from the right-hand pickup module; and neither coil will fire its two plugs when attached to the signal wire from left-hand pickup module --- indicates a possibly bad left-hand pickup module or an issue with the signal wire such as shorted or internally broken.
As known, the coil charges while the signal wire remains grounded through the pickup module, and fires as the signal wire becomes ungrounded when the rotor magnet passes the pick-up module.
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As known, the coil charges while the signal wire remains grounded through the pickup module, and fires as the signal wire becomes ungrounded when the rotor magnet passes the pick-up module.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
09 Nov 2011 01:41
You may want to check the wiring that comes out of the ignition cover, to behind the engine. I just had an issue with mine sitting on top of the muffler, and melting the insulation. You may have a similar problem that ended up damaging the wires.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
12 Nov 2011 13:53
Thanks for all the replies. I rechecked everything and tried to contact with Dynatek because Dyna S is under warranty but do not answer my emails, so i will call them (a nightmare due to my poor spoken english)
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Re: Dyna-S problem
12 Nov 2011 17:56leitz wrote: There are spark on 2 and 3 but not in 1 and 4 cylinders....
Spark seen on 2/3 is signaled to coil from 3 o'clock module.
If same signal wire from 3 o'clock module is attached to the other coil, should spark on 1/4.
Sparking plugs from either coil using signal wire from 3 o'clock module indicates the module is okay.
Repeat the test on the other coil using signal wire from 9 o'clock module that does not spark 1/4.
If module is bad, will not spark 2/3.
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Re: Dyna-S problem
12 Nov 2011 18:11Patton wrote:leitz wrote: There are spark on 2 and 3 but not in 1 and 4 cylinders....
Spark seen on 2/3 is signaled to coil from 3 o'clock module.
If same signal wire from 3 o'clock module is attached to the other coil, should spark on 1/4.
Sparking plugs from either coil using signal wire from 3 o'clock module indicates the module is okay.
Repeat the test on the other coil using signal wire from 9 o'clock module that does not spark 1/4.
If module is bad, will not spark 2/3.
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Good thought. I would also replace the spark plugs for 1/4, as they have probably been fouled by gas and won't spark when wet.
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