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My horn died

25 Oct 2010 20:47
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I changed the handlebars today. When I was done, I noticed the horn was no longer working. There's a good chance it has something to do with the handlebar change but I'm not sure.

I took apart the left switch pod and looked at the horn switch. Doesn't seem serviceable, I did spray some electrical contact cleaner on it. Put it back together and the horn still doesn't work.

In addition I wired a battery directly to the horn itself and it honks. So there's something wrong with the wiring between the switch and the horn. I traced the wiring as best I could and it seems like the wires are still connected.

What else can be done to check the horn? Or just replace the left switch pod?
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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 20:59
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Probably missing a ground someplace. Check the wiring for broken/loose wires.

If your bike is like mine, the horn wiring is Brown with white stripe(the hot circuit) and Black with white stripe is the ground circuit.
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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 21:06 - 25 Oct 2010 21:08
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Kapahulu wrote:
I changed the handlebars today. When I was done, I noticed the horn was no longer working. There's a good chance it has something to do with the handlebar change but I'm not sure.

I took apart the left switch pod and looked at the horn switch. Doesn't seem serviceable, I did spray some electrical contact cleaner on it. Put it back together and the horn still doesn't work.

In addition I wired a battery directly to the horn itself and it honks. So there's something wrong with the wiring between the switch and the horn. I traced the wiring as best I could and it seems like the wires are still connected.

What else can be done to check the horn? Or just replace the left switch pod?

Bars are probably not grounded. Seems impossible, I know but that happens. Had it happen with some black drag bars a million years ago.

Loosen 1 switch clamp bolt. Wrap a piece of wire around it, tighten it, ground it to the motor...turn on key...push botton.....should HONK. Then figure out how you're going to get the new bars grounded.
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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 21:10
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The black and white wire is the one connected to the horn switch. Is that how it works? I would think the black and white would be hot and brown would be ground.
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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 21:25 - 25 Oct 2010 21:28
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Horn button function is to ground and thereby allow current flow through the horn.

Brown is hot wire from ignition switch (battery positive).
Black/white wire is to ground through the horn button.
When the button is pushed, the black/white is supposed to ground, whereby the horn is supposed to emit its pitiful beep .

For wiring diagram, click > kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_docman&...d&gid=485&Itemid=108

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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 21:28
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Check and see if power is coming to the switch. if it does, then check for power at the other end of the switch when the button is pressed. If you have power at both ends of the switch then the issue is between the switch and the horn.
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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 21:36
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To test the horn itself, could use test wires from horn terminals to battery terminals.

Some horns have a screw adjustment to achieve the best sound.

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Re: My horn died

25 Oct 2010 22:12
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The horn works, I tested it on a battery today.

Tomorrow I'll try the grounding test with the wire. By the way, the new handlebars are aluminum. Think that could be an issue? The other functions (turn signals, hi/lo beam etc.) work correctly.
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Re: My horn died

26 Oct 2010 05:15 - 26 Oct 2010 05:28
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Kapahulu wrote:
The horn works, I tested it on a battery today.
Tomorrow I'll try the grounding test with the wire. By the way, the new handlebars are aluminum. Think that could be an issue? The other functions (turn signals, hi/lo beam etc.) work correctly.

Imo aluminum handlebars are not an issue.

Where horn itself works, the issue would be failure of power from the brown wire, and/or failure to ground the black/white wire when pushing the button.

Might also check integrity of the connectors on ends of wires where they attach to the horn, to assure the connectors are providing good continuity between the wires and horn terminals.
One or both connectors may have failed..
Would check for power inside connector to brown wire.
And ohm check for continuity between inside of other connector and black/white wire.

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Re: My horn died

26 Oct 2010 08:18
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If the bars are aluminum, they're coated. That's the problem I ran into with them. They needed to be grounded.

I sanded the coating off where they sit in the clamps. Sanded the inside of the clamps also.... cured the horn problem.

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Re: My horn died

26 Oct 2010 10:48
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Some bike parts made of Aluminum are Anodized, the more common coatings Can be Black,Blue,Red and clear. As Larry mentioned, the coating needs to be removed where the mounting hardware goes for a good ground.
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Re: My horn died

26 Oct 2010 13:56
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Yes these bars are anodized. I'll check it out this afternoon and let you know the results.
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