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Still having charging problems!
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Make sure you have a good ground to frame, engine, and the R/R ground lead.
Is the R/R new, or an old used unit? The new ones idle at 13+, and hit 14.5V right away at 3500 and never go higher.
Perhaps one of your stator windings is grounded/burnin out. Detectable by checking with ohm meter for continuity to ground. Connect to any 1 of three yellow wires and ground. If meter moves/reads anything than that winding is bad/going.
ALSO... BAD batteries can cause all sorts of weird crap. (But this sounds like R/R to me...)
Thankfully, you can just pop in a new battery and eliminate that issue!
GL.
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What are the voltage measurements with lights off?
As depicted in my manual anyways for my KZ900, the 14-14.5Vdc @ 4Krpm is with all accessories/lights off....
For testing, disconnect harness plugs to lights and such, measure battery voltage, run it for awhile 10-20miles), re-measure battery voltage and see if it still drains the battery....
Same time, run through the complete electrical test where panel connectors are disconnected in some of the measurements, may help you isolate it down to a faulty component...
As for the battery, junk it already...
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hmmm guys... "These readings are with everything on."...
What are the voltage measurements with lights off?
As depicted in my manual anyways for my KZ900, the 14-14.5Vdc @ 4Krpm is with all accessories/lights off....
For testing, disconnect harness plugs to lights and such, measure battery voltage, run it for awhile 10-20miles), re-measure battery voltage and see if it still drains the battery....
Same time, run through the complete electrical test where panel connectors are disconnected in some of the measurements, may help you isolate it down to a faulty component...
As for the battery, junk it already...
Agree about battery for sure.
The bike still needs to get 14.5V or better to charge with everything turned on + accessories added to the system.
If there is a large drop/difference between headlight on/off then there is an underlying wiring/connectivity issue.
The boys in blue have a serious problem with people riding around no headlight up here in Can. It's a big fine. Be sure to know the laws of your state/place.
Check all wiring - Good advise!
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In an ideal charging system, true...
But considering the unknowns here...
Example: 35Watt headlight @ 12Vdc equates to 2.916amp draw... If he has an H4 55w bulb in place... 4.583amp draw!!! Whoa...
Same time,for t-shooting/diagnosing his situation (not saying leave it that way by any means), if his electrical system is to spec with no accessories/lights on but not when on, this isolates the problem child down to a minimum few locations...
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MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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Also you may want to check this thread, if you want:
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=4&id=389324
And this for a full AMP Test of your system this info may help for using a AMP meter:
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=4&id=388730
You can fix it as it sounds like you have already checked a lot, did you charge and then load test that battery you fixed the post on?
Edit: Check for voltage drop at your connectors, pay close attention to where the red/ white wire connects at a 3 wire bullet connection junction. This is where the R/R wire joins the Batt +,(AT the Solenoid post), and the load feed to the system at the fuse panel. You want to make sure there are no signs of heat here, and no voltage drop from the R/R side to Batt wire.
I soldered these 3 together on my 1000.
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"needs to get 14.5V or better to charge with everything turned on + accessories added to the system."..
In an ideal charging system, true...
But considering the unknowns here...
Example: 35Watt headlight @ 12Vdc equates to 2.916amp draw... If he has an H4 55w bulb in place... 4.583amp draw!!! Whoa...
Same time,for t-shooting/diagnosing his situation (not saying leave it that way by any means), if his electrical system is to spec with no accessories/lights on but not when on, this isolates the problem child down to a minimum few locations...
...agreed.
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To rule out the regulator portion of the reg/rec, you can try to run it with the reg/rec brown wire disconncted. Then the regulator detection circuit will be out of the picture. Very carefully monitor the battery voltage as you run it. If it gets up near 15, drop the RPMs immediately.
The reason for this test is to eliminate the regulator's detection circuit as a possible problem. I've had at least two old reg/rec's that failed by lowering voltage sooner than it should. The rectifier should still work as usual.
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