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And the float itself may be perfectly buoyant and without any sticking.
As known, there's a tang (small flat extension) on the float arm that pushes the needle into its seat when the float rises, thereby stopping fuel flow through the needle into the bowl, which is supposed to happen when the fuel level is within specs. The clear tube test determines whether the level is within specs.
Where the tang is incorrectly set (bent to the wrong angle), the float is at wrong height when the tang pushes the valve closed. It might be having to float up too high, or vice versa, in order to close the valve.
In this particular case, everything may be perfect, except for the tang adjustment.
A miniscule adjustment (bending) of the tang usually results in a dramatic change in the float level, so best to proceed with tiny successive tang adjustments until arriving at the perfect level.
The internal carb circuits are designed to correctly function with the fuel inside the float bowl being at a specified level.
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First I would see if I could find another set of carbs that are known to be good and see if this works.
The points plate I would check the points to see if they are pitted/adjusted correctly. I personally hate points I would toss the whole setup in favor of dyna coils, taylor wires and a dyna plate but I don't know the condition of your bike or where your funds and ideas for the bike are at.
Now, from previous experiences with my bike that left me with busted knuckles trying to wrestle with the airbox, I have learned that some carbs cannot be cleaned out to run properly after sitting with gas in them. The ones I had I had to pry the crap out of the bowls and after about 20 cleanings within a season two that I actually paid for first time bike ran great for a day and then started running crappy just like my previous efforts and then the last time another that I paid for a tuneup by a guy who raced bikes and built them on the side for others, a local legend, I trashed them and bought another set of carbs and then disappeared all my issues.
Smoothbores, pods, electronic ignition and coils, vance pipe and I was one happy camper.
I don't know how easy it would be to replace the wires on stock coils, as I recall I just tossed mine for a little extra cash and I am still using those coils twenty years later so if you buy dyna coils I think you will be happy.
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cobura wrote:
I am running the four Ohm OEM coil that sells at Z1 Enterprises for $36 and it runs great in my 750 twin, a lot better than the stock coil.If someone can help out, what aftermarket coils do you recommend? Should i go with the Dyno 3ohm coils?
could you post a link to that product? if i would have seen that i would have gotten it instead of the much more expensive dyna kit.
just my thoughts on this whole thing, if the symptom is a weak spark with fouling check your ignition electricals as have been thoroughly discussed in this thread. once you have consistent good fat sparks and still have fouling then look at reasons why they are getting wet with fuel and/or oil.
an easy way to watch your sparks is to take the plugs out of the cylinder, plug them into their caps, and ground them somewhere on the chassis. take off your points cover, and with the ignition switch "ON" use an implement to either separate points that are closed to induce spark, and/or ground and release points that are open to induce spark. Try comparing sparks between plugs on the same coil, and comparing sparks between plugs on different coils.
there is also a chart around here somewhere that will tell you how to read your spark plugs, being able to do so is one of the best tools you can have, it can save you a lot of time and $$. being able to tell a difference between lean and hot, rich and cold, etc. will give you a better jumping off point in your troubleshooting.
always work through the simpler (and cheaper) potential issues before jumping into investments. make sure you KNOW what is wrong before you fix it. throwing parts at it until it works is definitely not the most efficient way of working, and can leave you scratching your head, more frustrated, and wanting to give up.
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bountyhunter wrote:
cobura wrote:
I am running the four Ohm OEM coil that sells at Z1 Enterprises for $36 and it runs great in my 750 twin, a lot better than the stock coil.If someone can help out, what aftermarket coils do you recommend? Should i go with the Dyno 3ohm coils?
could you post a link to that product? if i would have seen that i would have gotten it instead of the much more expensive dyna kit.
Looks like they are temporarily out of stock.
www.z1enterprises.com/SearchResult.aspx?...ords=ignition%20coil
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I saw a cool tool for testing sparks: it connects to the plug wire and ground and it has an adjustable spark gap (center electrode) you can keep opening to see how far the maximum spark distance is, which translates into spark voltage. Looked like fun....bountyhunter wrote:
cobura wrote:
I am running the four Ohm OEM coil that sells at Z1 Enterprises for $36 and it runs great in my 750 twin, a lot better than the stock coil.If someone can help out, what aftermarket coils do you recommend? Should i go with the Dyno 3ohm coils?
an easy way to watch your sparks is to take the plugs out of the cylinder, plug them into their caps, and ground them somewhere on the chassis. take off your points cover, and with the ignition switch "ON" use an implement to either separate points that are closed to induce spark, and/or ground and release points that are open to induce spark. Try comparing sparks between plugs on the same coil, and comparing sparks between plugs on different coils.
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You are also right that the airbox IS THE MOST ANNOYING THING EVER MADE! Its like kawasaki designed it to piss us off. Since i have to take it off again, I might just go with pod filters like you said, but I know it can also open up a whole new can of worms.
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...airbox IS THE MOST ANNOYING THING EVER MADE! Its like kawasaki designed it to piss us off. Since i have to take it off again, I might just go with pod filters like you said, but I know it can also open up a whole new can of worms.
New soft pliable air intake hoses are relatively inexpensive and offer substantially less resistance when removing and installing carbs.
Click here > Z1E Air Box Hoses
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Clip the pick up on a spark plug wire of choice.... Start engine.... No light strobe = no juice (conduction) through the plug to ground...
Can't get any simpler then that....
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