Accel, BS or straight dope?

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31 May 2007 01:01 #145132 by loudhvx
Replied by loudhvx on topic Accel, BS or straight dope?
I'm not a big fan of CDI. It produces a "hot" spark, but the duration is so short that the total energy of the spark is lower than a good Kettering spark. You want long duration so you initiate a larger flame front. A hot, but short, spark only ignites a tiny kernel and if the mixture is weak, the kernel will propagate slowly. Having a larger kernel will ensure a more thorough burn before the exhaust valve opens. However, a good mixture will propagate fast enough that the duration of the spark won't matter since the propagation will outpace the creation of the kernel from the spark.

The end result is, if spark energy or duration makes a significant difference on the running characteristics of the engine, then most likely the engine has condition problems or the mixture is weak.
I beleive it was John De Armond that had a good write up on the subject.

This only pertains to mostly stock motors, and does not include 2-strokers. 2-strokers have oil-foul issues so a CDI is very useful since it can blow through the oil
because it is capable of higher spark voltages. It still suffers from short duration, but arcing through the oil becomes a bigger priority.

To get around the problem of such short duration on CDI, MSD fires multiple sparks. The problem is that it can't do it fast enough at higher RPMs, so the extra sparks drop out at higher RPMs.

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31 May 2007 05:51 #145164 by BSKZ650
Replied by BSKZ650 on topic Accel, BS or straight dope?
in the natural gas industry, just about all the igition mfg, offerd long duration coils to produce the spark that lou was talking about, memory serves it had larger secondary wiring in the coil to produce a longer spark dwell, but then again it was set up for one coil per cyl, I dont think you would be able to make it work with duel plug set up like the bikes have.
to tell you the truth, I am not sure but I think the multiple spark from msd is limited to certian applications, most of there products have a long hot spark application, may be wrong on that one though

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