Starting w/o Exhaust system on

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21 Sep 2006 10:46 #78487 by IowaKZ
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I would nominate him for a Kawis award "Humanitarian Division" for his rescue effort and his shelter.

But, Sadly, is is a day late and a dollar short because many people here (myself included) have already tried to rescue this poor, abused bike:laugh:

1980 G1 Classic
Bettendorf, Iowa

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21 Sep 2006 17:44 #78585 by steell
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flht1997 wrote:

ok i agree cool air will be pulled in. but what temp exactly is the temp of the air coming in the intake side? i know the exhaust side is closed and the stem will not receive any cool air blast, but i feel that the mixture, while it will be affected, will not be signicatly leaned to cause engine damage when run for a short time.


The problem occurs after the bike is shut off, not while it's running. The reason I said it would probably be ok to run it for a few seconds is the valves won't have time to get real hot before it is shut down.

KD9JUR

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21 Sep 2006 23:54 #78671 by RomSpaceKnight
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I wouldn't try start it. I believe the oxygen rich air stream can act like a cutting torch and cut valves and piston crowns.

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22 Sep 2006 04:40 #78680 by steell
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RomSpaceKnight wrote:

I wouldn't try start it. I believe the oxygen rich air stream can act like a cutting torch and cut valves and piston crowns.

What oxygen rich airstream?

I have seen exhaust valves on automotive engines cut, due to a leaking exhaust valve and escaping combustion.

And I have started and run automotive engines for a few seconds with no exhaust manifolds and no adverse effects. Never tried it on a motorcycle motor but I don't see where there would be any difference.

KD9JUR

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22 Sep 2006 05:02 #78685 by BSKZ650
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I have seen people run an engine without maifolds on, looks cool, but I think another few min to bolt up the header on a bike is worth it,
the way my luck goes I would roast a couple of valves

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob

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22 Sep 2006 05:25 #78690 by kawsakiman
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i tried it for a few seconds just to see what it would sound like when i changed to a header pipe. it is loud but nowhere near as loud as running a open pipe. just a loud popping noise. the pipe amplifies the noise. real cool flames though.

someday i will be able to afford my kz habit.

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22 Sep 2006 05:50 #78695 by steell
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I tried it on a two stroke piston ported single when I was a kid, wouldn't start, just shot flames out the exhaust and intake :laugh: :laugh:

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