KZ650 to 750 question

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16 Aug 2006 13:46 #70025 by medic24
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If I have a 1977 KZ650, and I happen to get a complete 1977 KZ750 upper, cylinder, pistons, head.... other than I guess opening up the case for the cylinders to fit..... am I looking at any other "problems" or issues?

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16 Aug 2006 14:05 #70028 by apeman
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If your 750 parts are from a 4 cylinder, they are 1980 and above model years.

I understand this is doable, but I have never done it. I know the cam sprockets and chains are different.
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16 Aug 2006 14:25 #70031 by medic24
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Apeman, check this link Ebay Link same year as the KZ650, so I wasn't sure. Thanks for the reply though, let me know!

Post edited by: steell, at: 2006/08/16 19:13

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16 Aug 2006 15:52 #70043 by 77KZ650
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If you swap to the 750 top end, you will need to swap cam sprockets with your 650. the early 650s use a roller chain, while the 750s use a hyvo. using the 650 "roller" sprockets on the 750 cams is how you make your crank work with the 750 stuff. and yes you will need to enlarge the holes in the case to fit the larger sleeves, its not hard.:)

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16 Aug 2006 16:07 #70050 by DanOz7Five0
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Its pretty easy to just drop the whole 750 into the 77 650 frame. I happen to have one sitting here just like your looking to do 77 650B frame with a 80 750LTD motor that Im in the process of parting.

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16 Aug 2006 16:16 #70052 by steell
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I saw that on eBay and had a good chuckle, and the same for the 81 KZ750 twin auction :D

KZ750 four cylinder was first introduced as a 1980 model, and the 750 twins were made from 76-80, and 82-83, there was no 81 model 750 twin.

It's eBay, so "Buyer Beware" :)

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16 Aug 2006 16:41 #70061 by reborn650
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77KZ650 wrote:

If you swap to the 750 top end, you will need to swap cam sprockets with your 650. the early 650s use a roller chain, while the 750s use a hyvo. using the 650 "roller" sprockets on the 750 cams is how you make your crank work with the 750 stuff. and yes you will need to enlarge the holes in the case to fit the larger sleeves, its not hard.:)


Hey medic24.
77kz650 is correct on the swap as I just did this and it is pretty much a bolt on.

If you retain the 650 roller cam chain after swapping 650 sprockets onto the 750 cams, you should also keep the 650 cam chain adjuster that is mounted on the back of the cylinders under the carbs.

You might want to also look at the carb issue. If you are keeping the stock 650 carbs you may have to rejet the 650 carbs to compensate for the extra displacement. Of course, then you will want to bore the 750 to 810, mill, port and polish the 750 head etc....:)

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16 Aug 2006 19:36 #70104 by medic24
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OK... I realize I will have to enlarge the case, so.... switching the cam chain sprockets, and maybe a carb issue.... should do it then? AND... Thank you all for the input!
Dave

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16 Aug 2006 19:38 #70107 by medic24
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Sorry... should I just drop in an entire KZ750 engine?
If so, any expected "issues"?
Dave

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16 Aug 2006 20:40 #70127 by DanOz7Five0
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There really arent many issues to putting the 750 in. The biggest is the charging system, you can either use the 650s generator or the 750s alternator. I used the alternator on mine. If you get enough parts with the 750 you will also get Kawasakis stock electronic ignition (unless you already have an aftermarket)

I used the 650s Mikuni VM24 carbs and they were fine for me. I was never out there racing, but the bike moved me around good enough

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17 Aug 2006 06:16 - 03 Dec 2008 18:40 #70196 by JMKZHI
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17 Aug 2006 11:37 #70282 by sbjones
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dan what year is the engine, and how much are you asking for it?

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