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01 Sep 2016 15:42 #740818 by zukdave
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Kray-Z wrote:

Mrsuperbuckets wrote: 9.89 from a Buell is pretty amazing....


No it's almost unbelieveable unless that Buell is BUILT to shit.
There's a few flat slick bar bike Buell's that come to our track that are pretty well built and the
don't run close to those number's in fact I have beat a few of them on the bike in my sig.

Not starting shit but it take's a built out the ass sporty motor to go a flat 10.00 sec. 1/4 mile.


1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.

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01 Sep 2016 23:22 - 01 Sep 2016 23:23 #740854 by Kray-Z
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Zukdave,

The Buell 1125X doesn't use a H-D Sportster engine - it is a BRP / Rotax liquid cooled V-twin, and Rotax knows how to make Horsepower....about 125 RWHP.

Still, "Magazine" 1/4 miles were about 10.5 seconds...we all should know what I mean by "Magazine"....

The ZX12R in the photo post above - sure, that is closer, maybe 145 - 150 RWHP, and good for a low 11 or high 10 second pass with an average sized experienced rider. "Magazine" times were in the high 9's back in 2000...

It takes huge horsepower / torque, and light weight bike and rider, to get a street bike into the 9's. Stock bikes that are "real" 9 second street bikes...MAYBE the ZX14R, BMWS1000RR, Kawasaki H2. Low 10's - current model Panigale, R1, Busa....

2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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02 Sep 2016 18:21 #740952 by zukdave
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Ok I was thinking sporty motored Buell's.
This sporty is a regular at our track I've ran him a few time's with my little bike doing test pass's and we run real
close to the same number's.
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1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.

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02 Sep 2016 18:36 #740954 by Kray-Z
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A machine shop boss I had in the rocky mountain mining country west of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, had an Evo FXRS that ran 11.16 with stock chassis, tires / no wheelie bar. I remember him saying it was $10 000, 120 cubic inch S&S motor, but it kept cracking the crankcases....

2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....

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03 Sep 2016 05:18 #740970 by zukdave
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$10,000 for a motor that's twice as big as mine and it ran slower than mine will go. :woohoo: :woohoo:

1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.

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08 Sep 2017 09:10 #770602 by Olajoe
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The ZX12R in the photo post above - sure, that is closer, maybe 145 - 150 RWHP, and good for a low 11 or high 10 second pass with an average sized experienced rider. "Magazine" times were in the high 9's back in 2000...

Uh, that's a worse case scenario. Hi 10s, low 11s. come on man. The 12 is still one of the most potent $/perfomance bikes around. I'm only saying this because that's what my stock, unopened, stock geared, stock height bike, with yesterdays tire having every oz of air does, after a long day of work, two hours of driving, at 9K ft. That's before you subtract 15% hp. Same bike, rider at sea level, that's a mid to low 10. Not high ten or low 11 ;)


But my kerked kz1000 as it was 37 years ago, is still timeless.


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08 Sep 2017 09:51 - 08 Sep 2017 10:18 #770603 by Olajoe
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And my point, buying hp in the form of a different bike cost me less financially, emotionally, economically, than tearing a perfectly good old school bike apart to achieve the same results. YMMV. My 37 y/o bike starts right up, and sings like there's no tomorrow. And the new bikes have a history they can trace. Just look at the ninja h2 seat for example. Coincidence. No way. It's all in the dna.


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