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Wrong sprocket or issue with output shaft?
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The splines on the output shaft extend to about 7.5 mm from the case and the sprocket is a little more than 8mm thick in the center. Should the splines come out farther? Do I have the wrong sprocket? I don't have the correct service manual yet but searching around it looks like I might have a later model sprocket on there.
I have tried flipping the sprocket around so that the circular indentations are facing outboard but that does nothing to help the lock washer problem and moves the sprocket inboard a little bit. I think the previous owner might have tried that because there is a scar where a chain has rubbed the case.
Engine: 77 KZ1000 A1
Frame: 78 KZ1000 B2
Carb Type: VM 26 with accelerator pump.
Needle clip: 3rd (middle) position
Pod air filters
Main Jet 132.5
Idle Jet 20
Clip position on needle 3rd (middle)
Exhaust 4 into 1 Vance and Hines
PO says 1170 kit installed.
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According to JT Sprockets your front sprocket should measure 10mm thick at the splined hole. You may want to measure.
www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/5529
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I checked my old sprocket and it's 10.17mm thick so I'm confused as to how yours is only 8mm thick. The stock sprocket has a small boss bout 1.5mmor so deep on the back of it, are you including that in your 8mm measurement?
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my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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floivanus wrote: 79-80 he has the right washer. However, as was stated before that sprocket is worn out, get a new sprocket, front and rear and a new chain before that things breaks going down the highway
His bike's a 78, the same as mine, how is it the right washer if it doesn't fit the shaft? i.e. there are no splines for it to fit over. Depending on how it was fitted, it might not be locking the nut in place either.
I'm sure this is the washer he should have:
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Item #35, Part Number 92024- 044
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But yes, wrong sprocket for that locking tab. Your tab can be used, but sprocket needs to be addressed
my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
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The output shaft for a 79 is a different part number and the lock washer is part # 92200-1065 for a 79 and it has the teeth to match the splines of the shaft as opposed to being a plain washer like 94024-044 on the 77-78 bikes, The sprocket is the same part number for 78 and 79, so for the washer with spline cut outs to fit the output shaft of the 79+ bikes, there must be a longer splined area on the shaft to allow for the width of the washer. I suspect the modification was made to the output shaft and washer so the sprocket would be able to completely sit with it's full width on the splines for extra strength and durability. The plain washer setup on 77 and 78 KZ1000's is a carry over form the Z!'s which used the same set up to secure the front sprocket - it wasn't changed until the 79 model year.
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Yes the washer you pointed out is correct, for that year, i was wrong. BUT, like I said, he needs to buy two new sprockets and a chain first. The 530 set i bought from Z1E, for example, uses neither sprocket nut retaining setup. Best best; chain, sprockets, retainer as a package
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I still think the splines on the 79 and up KZ1000 output shaft will have about 2mm more spline length than the 77-78 so everything can fit on to the splines, unless the shaft can somehow be moved over to compensate. Mine is exactly like JohnnyMoffs, the splines do not quite go through the entire sprocket width, probably 1 mm or so short. With my new 530 sprocket from Z1E and their 1,5mm spacer behind to give the same width (10mmm), and spacing as the original it was exactly the same fit on the splines.
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Engine: 77 KZ1000 A1
Frame: 78 KZ1000 B2
Carb Type: VM 26 with accelerator pump.
Needle clip: 3rd (middle) position
Pod air filters
Main Jet 132.5
Idle Jet 20
Clip position on needle 3rd (middle)
Exhaust 4 into 1 Vance and Hines
PO says 1170 kit installed.
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1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
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1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400
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For the correct washer am I correct in thinking that the little tab goes into the hole on the sprocket and then you bend the washer up against the nut?
Engine: 77 KZ1000 A1
Frame: 78 KZ1000 B2
Carb Type: VM 26 with accelerator pump.
Needle clip: 3rd (middle) position
Pod air filters
Main Jet 132.5
Idle Jet 20
Clip position on needle 3rd (middle)
Exhaust 4 into 1 Vance and Hines
PO says 1170 kit installed.
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