2nd gear slip?

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11 Oct 2014 07:54 #650332 by SeattleKZ
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Somewhere around 5-6k rpms my 2nd gear slips. It is only 2nd, all the other gears work fine. I put in a new clutch hoping that would help but did not. It just slips for split second and then engages and runs the rest of the way just fine. Anybody else ever have this problem? Know what it might be?
This is in regards to a 1976 KZ900

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11 Oct 2014 08:00 #650333 by turboking
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most likely dogs on 2nd gear rounded off :dry: or possible shift fork. :huh: ........rounded dogs force gears apart...... it's a common issue of missed shift of cramming the tranny back in gear :S .....

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)

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11 Oct 2014 08:01 #650334 by SeattleKZ
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Is that something that can be done without splitting the cases?

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11 Oct 2014 08:02 #650335 by turboking
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cases have to be split for tranny repair .....new gear or have old gears undercut :ohmy:

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)

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11 Oct 2014 08:03 #650336 by SeattleKZ
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I guess I'll just live with it then

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11 Oct 2014 08:04 - 11 Oct 2014 08:05 #650337 by etbike3135
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Most likely the transmission gears are wore. This is most common in second gear. Easy to see when you get them out. There are not a lot out there with perfect gears after all these years, they all have some degree of wear. You can take the oil pan off and its not easy but you can get a look at the gears. You'll be looking on the output shaft for the 2 gears closest to your sprocket. They should look like these but they get rounded on both sides of the gears.

1973 Kawasaki Z1
18 years in dragbikes
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11 Oct 2014 08:06 #650339 by turboking
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you can do shift forks without splitting cases.....but it sounds more likely you have bad dog/gears................. :S

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)

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11 Oct 2014 08:06 #650340 by SeattleKZ
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ok, next time I do an oil change I'll pull the pan and have a look

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11 Oct 2014 08:07 #650341 by SeattleKZ
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Where do you access the shift forks?

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11 Oct 2014 08:16 - 11 Oct 2014 08:16 #650342 by turboking
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you have to remove the trans cover behind sprocket and have the oil pan off.......... i'd just drop the pan first myself......as it's more likely you have a 2nd gear issue

2005 Kawasaki mean streak
2000 325 H.P. mcXpress turbo Hayabusa
1979 kz 1000 mk II ATP turbo
1975 Z1 960 cc Mr. Turbo
1975 Z1 1428 big block ATP turbo
1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
1985 GS 1150E
1983 GS 1100E
1997 Suzuki Bandit 1200S
2001 Kawasaki EX 500 Ninja
1972 Honda cb750 (836cc turbo)
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11 Oct 2014 08:17 #650343 by etbike3135
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Same way, with the pan off. Most times the forks are worn from trying the keep worn gears in place. So most likely the gears go first then the forks.

1973 Kawasaki Z1
18 years in dragbikes

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11 Oct 2014 08:20 #650344 by SeattleKZ
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OK, thanks

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