so Mac or V&H 4 into 1 for my 80 KZ1000 shaft ?

which one mounts up better ? clears the oil filter & plug ? I don't want too loud either. is the Kerker worth twice as much ? this is just going to be a street daily rider.

TIA,Dan


sorry if it's been asked too many times.

Vance and Hines sometimes have chrome issues, but a Mac is just CHEASY! Decades ago, Macs were very inexpensive and a lot of us on a budget bought and used them. Now, they cost about the same as a V&H and I see no reason to even consider them. Just my 2 cents. Yes, the Kerker is the best. It'd be Kerker8.8 of ten. Vance and Hines 7.5 and Mac 4.5. Now for all of those people that will disagree.

What is a Kerker or V&H selling for these days? Motogpwerks sell this one for about $600 delivered to your door.

I have one and it's a great pipe. Stainless steel so it wont rust and the chrome will never come off! :laugh:

slayer61 wrote: What is a Kerker or V&H selling for these days? Motogpwerks sell this one for about $600 delivered to your door.

I have one and it's a great pipe. Stainless steel so it wont rust and the chrome will never come off! :laugh:

Dannnng that pipe. Have any more info? Website is vague at best.

No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configuration

Chris is the owner of motogpwerks and has some available on ebay. only one for the Kawasakis right now it looks like

Do you need to remove the pipe for oil filter access and can you keep the center stand? Thank you, Scott

Supposedly I got 1 of the last 2 pipes from motogpwerks that were made for the season for my 76 900, the last one was just sold last week. shipped with tracking # within 2 hrs after payment, $549.00 to my door...less money & better quality, than Kerker ....maybe if there is a demand for them, they'll make some more up ...Pete

Motogpwerks make a couple of different pipes. The road version can stay in place for oil changes. The race version must be removed. My pipe must be removed, but it has springs to hold the pipe onto the cylinder head... undo the springs and rear mount and it's down. I don't need to buy exhaust gaskets every time I change the oil.

I can't answer the center stand question. My bike doesn't have one. :blush:

Thanks for the info - nice bike!

tattooDan wrote: which one mounts up better ? clears the oil filter & plug ? I don't want too loud either. is the Kerker worth twice as much ? this is just going to be a street daily rider.

TIA,Dan

Iorry if it's been asked too many times.

As you can see I have Mac 4n2 on my bike, clears the oil filer and have the center stand. I think cost is around $375, I've had mine since 2008, My situation at the time I bought these was I was at the end of a "resto-mod resurrection" and seriously short of cash and wanted to ride, I would have bought a better brand if I had had the $$ at the time. AND,, I agree with the other guys posts, quality is NOT as good on MAC;s as V&H or others, and it required some slight mods to fit correctly. At the end of the day, depends on your cash flow situation, timing, and appearance requirements I guess...
Just my .02 there are probably 3 thousand different opinions most likely.
Ed

ed spangler wrote:
As you can see I have Mac 4n2 on my bike, clears the oil filer and have the center stand. I think cost is around $375, I've had mine since 2008, My situation at the time I bought these was I was at the end of a "resto-mod resurrection" and seriously short of cash and wanted to ride, I would have bought a better brand if I had had the $$ at the time. AND,, I agree with the other guys posts, quality is NOT as good on MAC;s as V&H or others, and it required some slight mods to fit correctly. At the end of the day, depends on your cash flow situation, timing, and appearance requirements I guess...
Just my .02 there are probably 3 thousand different opinions most likely.
Ed

+1 on what Ed said. If you have a discerning eye, you can get used, older Mac's on eBay that are equivalent in quality to Kerker's. I picked one up and it is nice, particularly compared to the available Mac's. BTW, V&H also had quality control issue with respect to fitment.

Here is my 80 LTD with the Vance & Hines, it was More than 1/2 the price of a Kerker, you can get to the filter & plug without removing, if you have a center stand you will have to fabricate some kind of stop to keep from hitting canister ...Pete