Oil sight cloudy looking?

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

07 Nov 2013 20:41

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KZCSI wrote: The answer is simple this bike is not ridden enough and when it is ridden it's put up before the whole engine and transmission can come up to temp.

What are the products of combustion? Water vapor and carbon dioxide. Our engines share the case with the transmission

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I ride it everyday that it's not raining. And far enough to get up to temp. I'm not quit following what you trying to say here

A milky site glass is a very common especially with synthetic oils when water vapor is frothed into oil and the bike doesn't get up to temp.

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07 Nov 2013 21:15

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4TheKZ1000 wrote: Water + Oil will turn to a milky brownish white color......
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+1 That's what water looks like. gasoline will mix into it and thin it, but it won't make white foam. Only water.

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07 Nov 2013 21:16

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4TheKZ1000 wrote: Water + Oil will turn to a milky brownish white color......blew a 2.8 ltr up in my chev S-10 when a head gasket slowly let go. Antifreeze got into oil and slowly destroyed engine

The oil was a milky brownish white.......

Yes I know. That's what I was saying. It's not possible unless someone is messing with it where I park. My curiosity is now getting the better of me. I'm going out to drain the oil.

Sometimes a problem with the crank case vent can allow condensation to form in the crank case.

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

07 Nov 2013 21:19 - 07 Nov 2013 21:20

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Beaner242 wrote: My nephew just mentioned riding in the rain. Which I did get caught in Monday night. For about a mile. Wasn't actually raing at the time but the roads were wet. How would it get into the case from rain though? Have Uni pods no air box.

What is the crank case breather hose connected to?

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

07 Nov 2013 21:42

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Beaner242 wrote: My nephew just mentioned riding in the rain. Which I did get caught in Monday night. For about a mile. Wasn't actually raing at the time but the roads were wet. How would it get into the case from rain though? Have Uni pods no air box.

What is the crank case breather hose connected to?

The breather tube off the case just has a small breather filter clamped to it. No hose running any where. I going to say it was from the rain the other night. It never occurred to me that it would make it into the oil. I was pretty wet by the time I hit the garage so water hitting my air filters and the crank case filter, must have been enough to get in there I guess.

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

07 Nov 2013 23:43

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bountyhunter wrote:

Beaner242 wrote: My nephew just mentioned riding in the rain. Which I did get caught in Monday night. For about a mile. Wasn't actually raing at the time but the roads were wet. How would it get into the case from rain though? Have Uni pods no air box.

What is the crank case breather hose connected to?

The breather tube off the case just has a small breather filter clamped to it. No hose running any where. I going to say it was from the rain the other night. It never occurred to me that it would make it into the oil. I was pretty wet by the time I hit the garage so water hitting my air filters and the crank case filter, must have been enough to get in there I guess.

Yeah, I would have guessed the crank case filter. I can't picture much water getting past the rings while it's running, but maybe it can? When gasoline gets into the oil, it's from flooding down into the cylinders and then draining down past the rings when it's not running.

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

08 Nov 2013 06:15

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+1 .........

definitely water........some how moisture is getting into the crank case vent

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08 Nov 2013 06:23

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if it's the chopped bike in your avatar......... NO rear fender or inner fender :S IMO, water is thrown forward into the case vent from the rear wheel.....crank vent filter or not :pinch:

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

08 Nov 2013 07:10

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turboking wrote: if it's the chopped bike in your avatar......... NO rear fender or inner fender :S IMO, water is thrown forward into the case vent from the rear wheel.....crank vent filter or not :pinch:

yes that is my thought to. just cant decide on what fender i want, and dont ever plan on riding in the rain, i just happen to get caught out in it the other night.

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

08 Nov 2013 07:18

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Put the crank case vent on a longer hose and mount it up high under the seat somewhere to protect it from the rain etc.

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

08 Nov 2013 07:33

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Stazi wrote: Put the crank case vent on a longer hose and mount it up high under the seat somewhere to protect it from the rain etc.

Or route the longer hose to exit underneath the bike.

And toss the filter, which imo is useless -- like who other than the EPA folks care about whether air is being filtered as it exits the crankcase (which is the purpose of the vent).

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Re: Oil sight cloudy looking?

08 Nov 2013 09:30

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yes ive thought of this also. honestly the the filter is just on there for looks, its like a mini K&N lol

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