- Posts: 1055
- Thank you received: 116
Where have all the second gears gone?
- floivanus
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
Less
More
22 Aug 2013 21:10 #602705
by floivanus
my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
Andrew
Replied by floivanus on topic Where have all the second gears gone?
Bought trans off ebay, pictures were wrong, its a shaft trans and guess what, 2nd gear dogs are worn at a near 40degree angle.
Garbage again.
Getting tired of this crap, about to give up on this crap and go to hondas, they dont have the power to break gears
Garbage again.
Getting tired of this crap, about to give up on this crap and go to hondas, they dont have the power to break gears
my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
Andrew
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- bluezbike
- Offline
- Sustaining Member
Less
More
- Posts: 598
- Thank you received: 104
22 Aug 2013 22:25 #602718
by bluezbike
79 KZ 1000 LTD
77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)
Replied by bluezbike on topic Where have all the second gears gone?
Boy...you must be fed up to mention the "H" word. I have a complete trans for you if you want to give it one more go.
79 KZ 1000 LTD
77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 74ullc
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 325
- Thank you received: 23
23 Aug 2013 02:35 #602743
by 74ullc
Gulf Coast, Texas
1977 KZ1000LTD
1984 VF700F
Replied by 74ullc on topic Where have all the second gears gone?
Trying to learn from this thread so please excuse my ignorance.... :blush:
Are we talking about the three tabs (dogs) on the top left gear in the photo under HEAVY DUTY TRANSMISSION GEARS near bottom of page here....
kzzone.com/trans.html
So the dogs on the second gear get rounded off so they slip out of the slots and the transmission jumps out of gear? Once it starts doing this it just gets worse and worse each time it slips out until you are left with little nubs that will no longer hold at all? Is it the input or output gear that goes bad? Plus on KZ trans when 2nd goes 5th goes with it?
And here is another page showing what undercut is....
www.aperaceparts.com/transmissions.html
Are we talking about the three tabs (dogs) on the top left gear in the photo under HEAVY DUTY TRANSMISSION GEARS near bottom of page here....
kzzone.com/trans.html
So the dogs on the second gear get rounded off so they slip out of the slots and the transmission jumps out of gear? Once it starts doing this it just gets worse and worse each time it slips out until you are left with little nubs that will no longer hold at all? Is it the input or output gear that goes bad? Plus on KZ trans when 2nd goes 5th goes with it?
And here is another page showing what undercut is....
www.aperaceparts.com/transmissions.html
Gulf Coast, Texas
1977 KZ1000LTD
1984 VF700F
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Powerstroke_fan
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 1017
- Thank you received: 83
23 Aug 2013 08:16 #602753
by Powerstroke_fan
1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD
2014- ZX14R all stock for now
Replied by Powerstroke_fan on topic Where have all the second gears gone?
If you need a good place to get a good trans, i know a couple people to try. I would try brain (kz1006). If not maybe try giving pearson racing a call. He might be a little more expensive, but he will be sure to get you a good one. He can also back cut them for you.
1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD
2014- ZX14R all stock for now
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Patton
- Offline
- KZr Legend
Less
More
- Posts: 18640
- Thank you received: 2098
23 Aug 2013 08:34 #602754
by Patton
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
Replied by Patton on topic Where have all the second gears gone?
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- zed1015
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 3023
- Thank you received: 1554
23 Aug 2013 11:10 #602770
by zed1015
Yep! you can get a full undercut cluster for £200 from Joe or have your own worn dogs undercut or buy a billet second gear from ape or drop in a MK2/LTD box(slightly beefier gears and extra dogs) etc, etc. the list goes on.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
Replied by zed1015 on topic Where have all the second gears gone?
Patton wrote: www.pitstopperformance.com/contact_us
Good Fortune!
Yep! you can get a full undercut cluster for £200 from Joe or have your own worn dogs undercut or buy a billet second gear from ape or drop in a MK2/LTD box(slightly beefier gears and extra dogs) etc, etc. the list goes on.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.