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Torn reduction gear hole
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03 Aug 2013 09:44 #599664
by zukdave
1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
Replied by zukdave on topic Torn reduction gear hole
One thing I have not seen said about is DO NOT buy just a top case half.
If you buy a case get a match'd set.
The case's are line bore'd for the tranny also.
If you buy a case get a match'd set.
The case's are line bore'd for the tranny also.
1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
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03 Aug 2013 11:32 #599679
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Would you believe I saw at least two different vendors on ebay selling case halves individually??? Honestly I don't have that much experience with engines, but even I can figure out what line-boring means and see that every case is going to be unique. And these vendors are doing a huge disservice by leading people to believe they can save $50 getting only the case half they need. Definitely a good warning to have out there for anyone else needing to swap cases.
@daveo: You're assuming I have a machine shop handy to make these modifications. You also made me realize that I hadn't checked the stator cover to see if the gear pin was supported from both side... It is, and the hole inside the stator cover is damaged as well. There is also material built up inside each hole, on one side, like something got jammed up and they continued to run the bike. Regardless, this doesn't look like something I can just patch-and-go. Something bad happened, and I need to figure out what before I try starting it up again.
1981 KZ1000-JK1
She's a beautiful mess, and I've made her all mine
Replied by Shdwdrgn on topic Torn reduction gear hole
zukdave wrote: One thing I have not seen said about is DO NOT buy just a top case half.
If you buy a case get a match'd set.
The case's are line bore'd for the tranny also.
Would you believe I saw at least two different vendors on ebay selling case halves individually??? Honestly I don't have that much experience with engines, but even I can figure out what line-boring means and see that every case is going to be unique. And these vendors are doing a huge disservice by leading people to believe they can save $50 getting only the case half they need. Definitely a good warning to have out there for anyone else needing to swap cases.
@daveo: You're assuming I have a machine shop handy to make these modifications. You also made me realize that I hadn't checked the stator cover to see if the gear pin was supported from both side... It is, and the hole inside the stator cover is damaged as well. There is also material built up inside each hole, on one side, like something got jammed up and they continued to run the bike. Regardless, this doesn't look like something I can just patch-and-go. Something bad happened, and I need to figure out what before I try starting it up again.
1981 KZ1000-JK1
She's a beautiful mess, and I've made her all mine
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03 Aug 2013 12:32 #599681
by daveo
1982 KZ1100-A2
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Sorry to hear about the problem with your motor. But you do have the right attitude...
Get-er-done, boy!
Get-er-done, boy!
1982 KZ1100-A2
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04 Aug 2013 00:22 #599762
by bluezbike
79 KZ 1000 LTD
77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)
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What zukdave said is totally correct, cases and cap are line bored for crank and tranny as a matched set only. Believe me I have learned the hard way with some sellers who knew better and who sold me stuff that was so wrong because I was at the start of the learning curve....something I will never do in return.
You will probably not have to replace crank bearings....if you do it's likely the internal bearings are shot too and those are press fit in so maybe a "new" crank would be in order. One good thing about getting a new set of cases is that by rebuilding them yourself you will know exactly what is in there with no further surprises. Do you have a factory service manual? If not I would encourage you to get one for the rebuild. Keep a log and post with some pictures....everyone loves those pics, looking forward to seeing what you do.
You will probably not have to replace crank bearings....if you do it's likely the internal bearings are shot too and those are press fit in so maybe a "new" crank would be in order. One good thing about getting a new set of cases is that by rebuilding them yourself you will know exactly what is in there with no further surprises. Do you have a factory service manual? If not I would encourage you to get one for the rebuild. Keep a log and post with some pictures....everyone loves those pics, looking forward to seeing what you do.
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77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)
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04 Aug 2013 00:25 #599763
by Motor Head
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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Check your starter clutch. If it has any broken spring pieces, it may hang it engaged. It could be the source of the damage.
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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04 Aug 2013 01:06 #599770
by Shdwdrgn
1981 KZ1000-JK1
She's a beautiful mess, and I've made her all mine
Replied by Shdwdrgn on topic Torn reduction gear hole
bluezbike -- I did find a pdf of the service manual, haven't had much time to go through that yet. I have every intention of doing a full tear-down and rebuild, because I want to know the bike inside&out.
Motor Head -- You know, that occurred to me too, something hung up and kept the starter engaged. I'll have to tear deeper into the engine to see what's happened. Unfortunately I wrenched my back badly earlier this week, and just getting back to where I can walk without much pain. I hate it when age gets in the way of having fun!!!
Motor Head -- You know, that occurred to me too, something hung up and kept the starter engaged. I'll have to tear deeper into the engine to see what's happened. Unfortunately I wrenched my back badly earlier this week, and just getting back to where I can walk without much pain. I hate it when age gets in the way of having fun!!!
1981 KZ1000-JK1
She's a beautiful mess, and I've made her all mine
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