Camshaft thread gone wrong?

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22 Apr 2013 00:36 #583502 by nivlac
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Great info from all. I'll use it this week........

1983 kz1100
1979 cb650

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22 Apr 2013 00:37 #583503 by jeffasaki
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i always check torque wrench calibration with a 1/2 gallon of milk :dry: WTF?
dont oil the threads
by now you should be able to tell how tight is too tight and how much is enough
stop and think before you strip another one
its only aluminum
not a lot of shear strength

78 Z1R
78 KZ1000
76 KH500 gone
71 HS1B 90
81 GS 1100 gone
80 PE400
02 KLR


Ontario Canada

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22 Apr 2013 13:58 #583539 by Kitten Tooth
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jeffasaki wrote: i always check torque wrench calibration with a 1/2 gallon of milk :dry: WTF?
dont oil the threads
by now you should be able to tell how tight is too tight and how much is enough
stop and think before you strip another one
its only aluminum
not a lot of shear strength



hahahahahaa

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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22 Apr 2013 13:59 #583541 by Kitten Tooth
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Sorry the half gallon of milk thing is funny. I had a bolt strip out of the head on my KZ1000 too. Then again, i could stick a nut on the other side..

1981 Kawasaki KZ1000-K LTD
1983 Suzuki GS300L-D
1982 Suzuki GS300L-Z sold:(
1976 KZ400D3
1973 Z900... I WISH

DO A BARREL ROLL!!

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22 Apr 2013 14:07 - 22 Apr 2013 14:13 #583543 by KZB2 650
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Before I sent my head in for the full treatment (minus porting)I heli coiled all 16 for this reason. I needed to check the clearance with plexi gauge on the 1980 kz750 cams and bench shim it also and with the added pressure due to the heavier springs I knew there would be a lot of wear on the treads before I was done and didn't want to take a chance.

Also figured I'd be removing the cams several times before the clearances settled in.

Used a little anti seize and went to 80 inch pounds myself and everything felt good and solid.

Before buying the beam type torgue wrench I've always used a 3 and a half inch 10 mm boxed end and was probably stopping at around 60 inch lbs so that's probably why I've never messed up a thread before on these or the valve cover bolts.

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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22 Apr 2013 14:27 #583545 by baldy110
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The last time my 650 engine was out of the frame I helicoiled every cam cap bolt just so I would not have to worry about stripping the threads again. It has been my experience that when one goes out all the others start to follow.
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22 Apr 2013 23:47 #583634 by Spenzher
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jeffasaki wrote: i always check torque wrench calibration with a 1/2 gallon of milk :dry: WTF?
dont oil the threads
by now you should be able to tell how tight is too tight and how much is enough
stop and think before you strip another one
its only aluminum
not a lot of shear strength


Haha yes I use a half gallon of milk. It's the only thing I know what the weight is :whistle:

And yeah I haven't really been too aggressive, and specially because they've all been stripping I've been slow and careful waiting for that tick. However, I definitely am paranoid and will go slower and less strength now.

KZB2 650 wrote: Before I sent my head in for the full treatment (minus porting)I heli coiled all 16 for this reason. I needed to check the clearance with plexi gauge on the 1980 kz750 cams and bench shim it also and with the added pressure due to the heavier springs I knew there would be a lot of wear on the treads before I was done and didn't want to take a chance.

Also figured I'd be removing the cams several times before the clearances settled in.

Used a little anti seize and went to 80 inch pounds myself and everything felt good and solid.

Before buying the beam type torgue wrench I've always used a 3 and a half inch 10 mm boxed end and was probably stopping at around 60 inch lbs so that's probably why I've never messed up a thread before on these or the valve cover bolts.

baldy110 wrote: The last time my 650 engine was out of the frame I helicoiled every cam cap bolt just so I would not have to worry about stripping the threads again. It has been my experience that when one goes out all the others start to follow.


Good to know I'm not the only one, thanks for the comments guys :)

'83 KZ750N Shaft

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