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14 Jun 2006 18:58 #54549
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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Was wandering what i need to purchase to polish up my motor. Even though i have yet to get my bike my friend is cleaning his motor with never dull and wants to know if there is anything he can purchase for home polishing? We figure if it is something a little expensive we can split the cost. I have no idea how the polishing process is done.:blink:
Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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14 Jun 2006 19:52 #54558
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Start by reading "How to buff and polish" at
www.caswellplating.com/buffs/buffman.htm
and that's also a good place to buy polishing supplies.
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14 Jun 2006 20:18 #54564
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Akron, Ohio
80 Z-1 Classic-Sold
84 GPZ1100
79 KZ 1000 LTD
78 KZ 1000 A2
77 KZ 1000 LTD-Sold
76 KZ 900 The definition of a barn find
76 KZ 900-Sold gone to Denmark
KZ 750 times 3, KZ 650 times 8 Sold 1 down to 7
KZ 550 times 2 80 440LTD-Sold
81 CSR 305-Sold 81 Yamaha XS650 Special
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A lot depends on the condition of your engine covers to start with. IMHO never dull is way too slow unless you have a museum bike that has never been exposed to the weather.
I've been fooling around with early 80's vintage stuff and this has been working fairly well for me. I have been using wet-dry sand paper to get rid of the heavy tarnish first and then buffing the covers with a bench grinder fitted with a sewn 8" buffing wheel I bought at Harbor Freight for like $4.99. I also picked up a stick of SCR white compound for buffing stainless steel also from Harbor Freight costs $3.99. You just turn the buffer on and load up the wheel by holding the white compound stick against the wheel for a few seconds and then start buffing your part. Takes no time at all to bring the shine back to your parts.
I also bought a 4 1/2" angle grinder again from Harbor Freight for $9.99 and equipped it with a 6" sewn buffing wheel to buff covers I did not want to remove from the bike yet. It will do a superficial job but you can't get into a lot of spots like you can by removing the part and using the bench setup. I bought it thinking it will work well for doing mag wheels.
If you want to clean stuff up by hand Mothers mag polish works about as well as anything but it is still a ton of work.
I've been fooling around with early 80's vintage stuff and this has been working fairly well for me. I have been using wet-dry sand paper to get rid of the heavy tarnish first and then buffing the covers with a bench grinder fitted with a sewn 8" buffing wheel I bought at Harbor Freight for like $4.99. I also picked up a stick of SCR white compound for buffing stainless steel also from Harbor Freight costs $3.99. You just turn the buffer on and load up the wheel by holding the white compound stick against the wheel for a few seconds and then start buffing your part. Takes no time at all to bring the shine back to your parts.
I also bought a 4 1/2" angle grinder again from Harbor Freight for $9.99 and equipped it with a 6" sewn buffing wheel to buff covers I did not want to remove from the bike yet. It will do a superficial job but you can't get into a lot of spots like you can by removing the part and using the bench setup. I bought it thinking it will work well for doing mag wheels.
If you want to clean stuff up by hand Mothers mag polish works about as well as anything but it is still a ton of work.
Andy
Akron, Ohio
80 Z-1 Classic-Sold
84 GPZ1100
79 KZ 1000 LTD
78 KZ 1000 A2
77 KZ 1000 LTD-Sold
76 KZ 900 The definition of a barn find
76 KZ 900-Sold gone to Denmark
KZ 750 times 3, KZ 650 times 8 Sold 1 down to 7
KZ 550 times 2 80 440LTD-Sold
81 CSR 305-Sold 81 Yamaha XS650 Special
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14 Jun 2006 20:31 #54570
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
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I have a harbor freight about 8 blocks from my house. Think i will give them a visit, everything that you named sounds right up my alley.
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14 Jun 2006 20:47 #54574
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I bought this from harbor freight on sale for like $69:
It works great.. 3600 rpm and 3/4 hp motor. Then bought, tripoli compound and white jewelers rogue compound. Also bought 8" sprial and loose buffing wheels from eastwood.com
First I sand my parts. I used 80 grit on my DA sander on my clutch cover for my kz to start getting all the pits out, moved up to 150, 320, 800, 1500 grit. Its ALOT of work ! but you can buff the 1500g out real easy on the buffer - or you can buff out 800g with more work on the buffer - but I find it easier to sand with 1500.
It takes time and patience and alot of trial and error..
It works great.. 3600 rpm and 3/4 hp motor. Then bought, tripoli compound and white jewelers rogue compound. Also bought 8" sprial and loose buffing wheels from eastwood.com
First I sand my parts. I used 80 grit on my DA sander on my clutch cover for my kz to start getting all the pits out, moved up to 150, 320, 800, 1500 grit. Its ALOT of work ! but you can buff the 1500g out real easy on the buffer - or you can buff out 800g with more work on the buffer - but I find it easier to sand with 1500.
It takes time and patience and alot of trial and error..
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14 Jun 2006 21:21 #54583
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I agree. Polishing is Filthy work. But it is all in the sanding. Make sure you cross grains between every grit. If you sand right ,you don't need much but a tub of Mother's,and a lot of patience. Beer helps.:woohoo:
I did this with the motor in the frame-without busting a gasket.
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I did this with the motor in the frame-without busting a gasket.
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14 Jun 2006 22:01 #54590
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Watch it folks,i have sticky fingers when it comes to a nice looking set of handle bars:)
Replied by kzmarvo on topic Home polishing, how and what do you need?
Damn that looks really really nice.I figure i will spend a few days just cleaning my bike when i get it.
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15 Jun 2006 04:19 #54600
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I bought all my supplys from Tarheel supply. They have a shaft with two pulleys and bearings for 20 bucks if you want to build your own bench polisher. Roy
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15 Jun 2006 05:12 #54608
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I looked into starting a polishing business years ago, but decided I just didn't want to do it all day! If you've done it once, imagine looking forward to it everyday. There's a reason it's expensive.
Regarding sanding the parts first, you can buy glue and grit and make your own sanding wheels that flex much like the sewn polishing wheels you would use with the compounds. Glue is applied to the wheel and then it is rolled in the grit. It's allowed to harden overnight and then cracked with a piece of dowel or hammer handle to allow it to flex. Now having said that, I don't remember where I got the grits or glue but I'm sure a check with commercial suppliers will get you what you need. Note, commercial polishers use a hot glue, I used a cold glue made for home use. If I can remember where I got it, I will post it (it was about 20 years ago).
edit...I just went back and read the Caswell link and all the info is there...
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Regarding sanding the parts first, you can buy glue and grit and make your own sanding wheels that flex much like the sewn polishing wheels you would use with the compounds. Glue is applied to the wheel and then it is rolled in the grit. It's allowed to harden overnight and then cracked with a piece of dowel or hammer handle to allow it to flex. Now having said that, I don't remember where I got the grits or glue but I'm sure a check with commercial suppliers will get you what you need. Note, commercial polishers use a hot glue, I used a cold glue made for home use. If I can remember where I got it, I will post it (it was about 20 years ago).
edit...I just went back and read the Caswell link and all the info is there...
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15 Jun 2006 09:26 #54651
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start with small parts:whistle:
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16 Jun 2006 07:55 #54881
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1979 KZ1000E1 SOLD!
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Just a hint from me... use a breather mask. Plan on taking a shower too afterwards as you will be black with aluminum dust. A lot of engine covers have clear coat on them so instead of fighting with sand paper I just soak them in lacquer thinner. The buffer wheel will work a whole lot faster and you won't have as many hand issues from holding the parts against the wheel. Watch using the wheel around edges as it tends to catch the part and fling it out of your hands.
You can even get rid of the majority of "drop" marks from the covers hitting the road. here are some photos of the covers off the wifes rebel I'm doing right now. You should have seen the starter on the inside as well, it was bad the worse you can imagine. A little time spent on it and it works perfect and looks bettr than new.
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You can even get rid of the majority of "drop" marks from the covers hitting the road. here are some photos of the covers off the wifes rebel I'm doing right now. You should have seen the starter on the inside as well, it was bad the worse you can imagine. A little time spent on it and it works perfect and looks bettr than new.
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16 Jun 2006 08:05 #54884
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1979 KZ1000E1 SOLD!
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2001 ZRX1200R (Sold)
2001 Sprint 955i ST (daily rider)
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Joomlaboard, what a hack job of a program, sorry but it is really a bad program, I mean it makes Microsoft look good! Let's do it the hard way...
1979 KZ1000E1 SOLD!
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