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13 May 2006 12:36 #47005 by OKC_Kent
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Hey guys,

Will a Kawasaki factory manual from a later year, say 1982, cover my 1978 ? Or do they cover the model year printed?

Kent

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13 May 2006 12:46 #47007 by guitargeek
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A 650 guy could tell you more, but I know there were some changes made. My factory service manual covers my 1980 model, but has added chapters for model years 1981 and 1982.

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13 May 2006 13:16 #47014 by Duck
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The model numbers should be listed in the front of the manual. Sometimes they're printed on the back cover. If you're buying from a used book seller, send them some mail and ask...
addall.com is a pretty good place to find used books. I get most of my manuals through there.

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13 May 2006 13:19 #47015 by pumps
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Speaking of manuals..I just got my 79' 650 SR home that I just bought last night. As a proud new owner I want to know what is/are the best manual for me to use?

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13 May 2006 13:25 #47016 by OKC_Kent
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Try to buy a Kawasaki Factory manual, and also a Clymers or Haynes. I prefer the Clymer . Some one on ebay is selling manuals on CD's for 9-10 dollars.

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13 May 2006 13:48 #47020 by Nevco48
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OKC_Kent wrote:

Try to buy a Kawasaki Factory manual, and also a Clymers or Haynes. I prefer the Clymer . Some one on ebay is selling manuals on CD's for 9-10 dollars.


I bought the CD version of the Kawasaki manual for my 750. You can review the whole thing on your monitor, but I got smart and printed out a few sections that I was working with. I was getting my keyboard all greasy, going back and forth from the garage to the computer...

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13 May 2006 15:11 #47035 by RetroRiceRocketRider
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OKC_Kent wrote:

Hey guys,

Will a Kawasaki factory manual from a later year, say 1982, cover my 1978 ? Or do they cover the model year printed?

Kent


'77~'79 had a points/condensor ignition, a kick starter and Mikuni carbs. The '80~ had electronic ignition, no kick starter and IIRC had Kehien(sp) carbs.
There were other small mechanical differences like the brake master cylinders/calipers and portions of the electrical system. I'm sure there's other differences (aside from body parts) that I just can't recall right now.

Oh, the '77 also had a 3-phase(?) charging system and a seperate regulator rectifier, the following years went to a 2-phase(?) charging system and a combined regulator/rectifier assy.

I'd suggest not getting one that covers either the '77 or newer than '79, and stick with the correct model...B model, not the C (had diff brakes and wheels) or the D (SR) (had diff forks, frame, body parts, wheels, etc).

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13 May 2006 18:23 #47073 by OKC_Kent
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Another difference between the B1 and B2 is the internals of the fork.

I ask all this because I have a B1 Manual but a B2 bike. I want to sell the B1 manual or swap for a B2. It's not a real big deal, but if I were to buy an 81 manual that's on ebay now, that shows a CSR on the cover, I wondered if it would cover all the details of the 78 B2?

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13 May 2006 18:25 #47074 by OKC_Kent
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Nevco48 wrote:

I bought the CD version of the Kawasaki manual for my 750. You can review the whole thing on your monitor, but I got smart and printed out a few sections that I was working with. I was getting my keyboard all greasy, going back and forth from the garage to the computer...


Are the pages scanned from the original manuals? If so are they clear and readable? What are the extra features he adds to the CD?

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13 May 2006 20:34 #47095 by N0NB
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According to my factory manual the 1980 650s still had a kick starter, Mikuni VM24SS "air screw' carbs, and the wiring diagrams still show contact breaker ignition. The part number for my manual which covers the B2A - B4, C3 - C4, D1A - D3, E1, and F1 models is 99924-1007-03,

Of course the manual is only of use so long as parts haven't been swapped off a bike the manual doesn't cover.

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14 May 2006 03:36 #47115 by Mcdroid
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Kent:

The manual you are looking at for the 1981-2 650's does not include your B2 model. There were apparently enough changes/difference between the 1980 and 1981 models that a different manual was issued. I have both KHI manuals and smilar to what Nate said, the earlier manual covers the B1 and 2 models, C1 and 2 and D1 (Kawasaki part number 99924-1001-02, the last set of numbers refer to the edition number, so the higher the number, the more inclusive the manual [changes and models]). The later manual (Kawasaki part number 99924-1028-02 (therefore, 2nd edition) covers 1981/2 models D4, F2/3, and H1/2.

Nate:

It think the part number you gave for your 650 manual is wrong, should be '1001' instead of '1007'. You have the 3rd edition while I have the 2nd ed.:)

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14 May 2006 06:33 #47132 by Nevco48
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The manual on CD is very readable and prints out cleanly. My version has some extra sections about carb cleaning, wiseco pistons, and some crap about how to pull wheelies, etc.

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