How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 09:01
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I've heard of using water to clean the valves like this, and even done it a few times on cars over the years. But I never took anything apart afterwards to see if it actually worked.
But I've also heard that transmission fluid will do it too, but I wouldn't recommend it on a motorcycle engine. I'd be worried about scoring the cylinder walls.
But since you can actually look in your exhaust ports and see the valves, I don't see where it would hurt anything to paint some tranny fluid directly on the carbon deposits. Maybe it'll soften it up and blow out next time you run it.

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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 09:04
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warmed up motor.just take a spray bottle and blast a little in there while working the throttle a little,motor will stumble a little.water wont compress it basically turns to steam and blows carbon off.do one carb at a time and watch the carbon blow out exhuast,might need to do each cylinder couple times depending on how bad it is.B)
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 09:18
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riverroad wrote:
But since you can actually look in your exhaust ports and see the valves...

Just don't run the engine with the headers off...
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 09:25
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yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 09:34
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Ok! How long should I do that for each carburetor? You're saying you can actually see the carbon come out the exhaust pipe? That sounds gratifying, I'll have to give it a try.
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 09:45
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hold your hand back a couple feet from exhuast,youll feel the little chunkshitting your hand!:laugh:
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 10:40
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PLUMMEN wrote:
hold your hand back a couple feet from exhuast,youll feel the little chunkshitting your hand!:laugh:

All right...what the hell is chunkshitting!?!?!?! Never mind, I really don't want to know...
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 11:02
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You might as well bite the bullet and do a valve seal job. I had a bike with the valve seal completely missing and the buildup was not that bad. As posted above, a wire wheel on a bench grinder does the job real quick. You are wasting your time trying to clean your valves while in the engine because the root cause is leaking oil....chris3
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

10 Oct 2008 12:38
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Mcdroid wrote:
PLUMMEN wrote:
hold your hand back a couple feet from exhuast,youll feel the little chunkshitting your hand!:laugh:

All right...what the hell is chunkshitting!?!?!?! Never mind, I really don't want to know...
chunks hitting!:laugh: i type with one finger and you expect me to be able to spell also?:woohoo:
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

11 Oct 2008 07:09
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The use of the word chunkshitting made me think there was a stomach virus involved somewhere in this discussion.

I doubt water will clean the carbon off valves where it is baked on and thick. One of the gas station companies sells gas with a chemical called Techron which is made to remove this stuff. You can buy bottles of the stuff to use in higher concentration but I doubt it will remove burned on carbon. I think a wire brush wheel on a drill or Dremel tool would be the best bet. If the stuff has crept up high enough, the stem seals will be toast. I would buy a new cylinder head gasket and remove the head and do some cleaning and have some new seals on hand.
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

14 Oct 2008 14:56 - 14 Oct 2008 16:58
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Plummen- Thanks for the advice. This past weekend I successfully steam cleaned carbon out of my combustion chambers and valves with a spray bottle using a fine mist of water. I was surprised to see how well the engine ran despite the healthy dose of water. Small chunks of carbon flew out the exhaust pipe. I'll admit I was extremely skeptical about it. I've heard horror stories about hydro-lock and bent connecting rods and valves; fortunately this was not the case. Everything went smoothly, although it was time consuming to "mist" a decent quantity of water through the system. Thanks again for the advice! After the steam clean, the throttle response was much crisper and more responsive! One thing I didn't realize was that water would mix with the oil in the crankcase, creating a newfound "sludge" problem the likes of which I have never seen.. I changed the oil right afterward, but unfortunately, the water and oil formed to combine what I can only describe as a foamy, light colored petroleum mucking the entire innards of engine casings and the powerplant's bowels..Fortunately, life goes on. Although next time I think I will just spray a mist of Seafoam directly down the carburetor throats until stalling engine. Restart engine 5-15 minutes later and watch the smokefest! Thanks All.
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Re: How to: Valve-stem carbon removal?

14 Oct 2008 19:20
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i have used bg 44k fuel system cleaner seems to work pretty
well.i work at car x and we do induction services in the upper intakes and i have seen first hand that there products just melts away built up carbon may take a few times but it will do it
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