KZ900 stock cylinder block bore?

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19 Aug 2008 15:53 #232966 by KruZer
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I'm having a problem trying to determine what size piston rings I need to order for my stock 900 engine.
My engine, number Z1E11511, is stock but the cylinder is stamped with the number "2" in front of each piston sleeve. I'm assuming this means the cylinder was over bored at the factory.
I see on some web sites that they sell over size rings but I'm not sure what the number "2" represents?
The other issue I'm running into is that all of the sites that have stock pistons rings say that the oil ring is a three piece ring. My oil ring is a one piece ring???

I'm hoping someone out there can shed some light on this??

Thanks,
Buzz

*1977 1000, 1975 KZ998 LSR bike.

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19 Aug 2008 19:06 #233002 by Royal1MC
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It should be a 3 piece.
If possible post a picture of the piston, rings, and the cylinder block.

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19 Aug 2008 20:08 #233016 by KruZer
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Here are the pictures of the block, piston and ring set and the oil ring by itself.

Hope this helps

*1977 1000, 1975 KZ998 LSR bike.
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19 Aug 2008 20:09 #233017 by KruZer
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Looks like I'm having technical difficulities... here's the block.

*1977 1000, 1975 KZ998 LSR bike.
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19 Aug 2008 20:10 #233019 by KruZer
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A closer look at the block!

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19 Aug 2008 20:11 #233020 by KruZer
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And the piston and the three ring set...

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20 Aug 2008 05:53 #233057 by Old Man Rock
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The easiest way to determine is the following...

Go to Harbor Freight Tools, Home Depot, ACE hardware, Lowes etc... and purchase a digital caliper... ~ $20-$30...

I promise, you will use this tool more times then you can even think of in these retro fits/modifications of these old beauties... ;)

Measure the diameter of the piston. You can even measure your inner ring dimensions this way as well as the cylinder bores. Then you will know exactly what you have in pistons and ring sizes.

If I remember correctly, stock kz900 pistons were 66mm.
They measure 65mm at the crown and 65.9 at the bottom of the skirt.

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20 Aug 2008 05:58 #233059 by shighley
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Hey KruZer; I gonna go out on a limb here and say that the "2" stamped in the aluminum on the deck references the size of the bores. I seem to remember reading something about "when fitting new factory pistons, look to see what number is stamped on the cylinder block" I can't give you specifics but just a general idea. When the factory finishes the honing, the bore size doesn't always come out to nominal dimension and they use the number code to tell the assembly people which pistons to use (whose diameters also don't always meet nominal. It's the same with most other critical engine components like crank bearing journals and gears. Hope this helps you in some way and it may jog the memory of others for the specifics. The bottom line is what the bores measure now and what the ring gap will be. Ride safe, Steve

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20 Aug 2008 12:21 #233127 by mark1122
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measure your piston and bore and make sure u dont need larger pistons befor u worry about the rings. if u need rings call Dawn at Hastings rings.com. she can supply all dif types and sizes.she will need the bore size and ring thickness.

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20 Aug 2008 13:13 #233134 by KruZer
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The cylinders (sleeves) and pistons are well within specifications so all I really need to do is find out where I can buy the correct set of rings.
I've called a few parts vendors and none them have heard of a one piece oil ring for the KZ900.
I guess I could just buy a used set of 1000 pistons and bore out my block but I hate to spend the extra money on the pistons and boring...... and still have to purchase a set of rings for the 1000 pistons...

Thanks for all the advise...

Buzz

*1977 1000, 1975 KZ998 LSR bike.

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20 Aug 2008 13:51 #233140 by modprod
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Those are Stock pistons and rings. Stock pistons are by ART
Check Z1 Enterprizes.

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20 Aug 2008 16:56 #233171 by PLUMMEN
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does it look like the top of cylinder has been decked/milled ?might of been there way of marking if cylinder was warped at one time ;)

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