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Always remember to wear proper riding gear. More seriously though, I just picked this up yesterday and haven't gotten it insured yet. First bike and all that stuff, figured I'd make it something I won't outgrow in a month.

davido wrote: This is me this afternoon,pondering on how to sort out my leaky carb/petcock problem. ' not a big deal' you may think but combined with a recalcitrant clutch, it was doing my head in and I just had to put on my bikini and lay down to rest on a (modern) Kawasaki.
If this is offensive to anyone,I apologise,but my KZ wasnt available.

Im sad to see a post like this.
My 7 year old son is growing to love bikes and we were following my post together, looking at the pics of ppl and their marvelous bikes, until you posted this. I cant scroll through this and let him see the pics anymore. Im teaching him to respect, and not objectify women. The subtext of this photo is women and bikes are possessions. There's a big difference between a motorcycle and a woman and I just dont dig this. Sure I want him to be like any other red blooded male and appreciate the stunning beauty of a woman, but not like this, not some woman draped across a bike with nearly nothing on. This is a still photo of what goes on in a strip club and posted in poor taste. . Im not perfect and Im not judging you, but this is light porn and completely inappropriate and immature, Not happy with this at all. We all love vintage bikes and they still have a place in the world, but not a vintage mindset.....or vintage values of this kind. I dont have a daughter yet but my god i would never want her to think posing like this is cool, or that she is any mans possession

When you go to the beach, you will see the same attire. Also, if you take him to a bike event, even in the future, he will see beautiful women in bikinis. She is not back view with a thong or topless. Everyone is soooo offended these days. Relax and enjoy this thread. Everyone else is enjoying adding their pics of our proud bikes that we love and sharing with other people of the same era bikes. Tom

tomsbadkz wrote: When you go to the beach, you will see the same attire. Also, if you take him to a bike event, even in the future, he will see beautiful women in bikinis. She is not back view with a thong or topless. Everyone is soooo offended these days. Relax and enjoy this thread. Everyone else is enjoying adding their pics of our proud bikes that we love and sharing with other people of the same era bikes. Tom

I agree that ppl are way too offended these days but my point, perhaps, hasnt been made clear.

My wife is european. we go to nude beaches. My son sees nudity all the time. Not a problem. Its the CONTEXT of that photo, a woman draped over a bike is a clear signal that she too is a possession or item to be possessed. Its not how I want him to see women. Too much of that "bro" culture going on and this is what makes young men treat women as objects, things to be conquered and not respected. I think its terrible. My parents ALSO raised me NOT to see women in that way. Sure my dad was a bit lenient, but still. If you had a daughter, would you want her posed like this? No.

Seventeen years on the back, and she still enjoys a wild ride now and then.

Opinions vary on what is artistic modeling to an "inappropriate" or an item that is a possession or possessed. Its just a pic of a model. It's how a father will raise his son to respect women for their beauty and their mind as an equal. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

JWKZ750 wrote:

davido wrote: This is me this afternoon,pondering on how to sort out my leaky carb/petcock problem. ' not a big deal' you may think but combined with a recalcitrant clutch, it was doing my head in and I just had to put on my bikini and lay down to rest on a (modern) Kawasaki.
If this is offensive to anyone,I apologise,but my KZ wasnt available.

Im sad to see a post like this.
My 7 year old son is growing to love bikes and we were following my post together, looking at the pics of ppl and their marvelous bikes, until you posted this. I cant scroll through this and let him see the pics anymore. Im teaching him to respect, and not objectify women. The subtext of this photo is women and bikes are possessions. There's a big difference between a motorcycle and a woman and I just dont dig this. Sure I want him to be like any other red blooded male and appreciate the stunning beauty of a woman, but not like this, not some woman draped across a bike with nearly nothing on. This is a still photo of what goes on in a strip club and posted in poor taste. . Im not perfect and Im not judging you, but this is light porn and completely inappropriate and immature, Not happy with this at all. We all love vintage bikes and they still have a place in the world, but not a vintage mindset.....or vintage values of this kind. I dont have a daughter yet but my god i would never want her to think posing like this is cool, or that she is any mans possession

Quote This is a still photo of what goes on in a strip club and posted in poor taste. . Im not perfect and Im not judging you, but this is light porn and completely inappropriate and immature, Not happy with this at all

WOW I'm speehless
Bet your still suicidal hillery lost.

Let the good times roll !!

tomsbadkz wrote: Opinions vary on what is artistic modeling to an "inappropriate" or an item that is a possession or possessed. Its just a pic of a model. It's how a father will raise his son to respect women for their beauty and their mind as an equal. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

Its also what a child is exposed to, which is why so many children go off the rails outside of their parents guidance. My point is, i dont want my son exposed to the objectification of women which is what makes college campuses so dangerous, and has fostered and attitude of disrespect toward women that is rampant in american culture.

Ive made my position clear that I DONT want my son exposed to sexualized material, yet youve chosen go right ahead and post a photo that is meant to defy my respectful request.. Ive said my son was looking at this post and still you do it.
That is disrespectful and childish. If more ppl cared about how we are raising kids and what we teach them (respect, cooperation and also STRENGTH), our country would be united. And no, that is not a swipe at our President, this is a swipe against the EVIL that is trying to corrupt our world.and especially our children.

its ok to own bikes, but if we worship them and incorporate them into part of our self worth, what happens when we cant ride them? What happens when we crash the bike which we spent inordinate amounts of money and time building? What happens when we lose what our self worth is tied up in? What then? What happens when we get too old (im pretty young btw) to ride? Who are we then?

I saw a friend fo mine go through this recently when he lost every bike he owned. He was a bit lost.

If we value ourselves by how many hot women we get, what happens when, as we get super old, our testosterone drops and we cant even perform anymore? Who are we then? What good is staring at porn or semi-porn if we cant even please a woman in our old age?

The Mind and Self-Esteem of the American Male is built on the quicksand of "what you own, how much you make, how fast or expensive your car is, how loud your pipes are, whether you can beat the guy in the car next to you, etc" In college its how many girls you sleep with. All things that destroy our culture through misplaced values.

When the financial crisis fell upon use and ppl lost it all, they also lost their minds because they believed they WERE their job, their house, their car, their vacation spot, their jewelry and watches. All gone and they lost it.

In re the Hillery comment

Its amazing how ppl reduce everything to politics and "oh you must be a liberal." No its not that. Its that Im a CHRISTIAN and this offends my idea of what is right. I hope I made that clear so ppl who have an ax to grind with ppl of the "liberal persuasion" and seek to take silly swipes at them (a thing which is dividing this country) would stop it.

Its as simple as this. I dont want my son to see women in a certain light, and if I had a daughter, I would NOT want her posed that way.

Nothing to do with Hillery, snowflakes, or 45.

It has to do with what the BIBLE tells me to tell my son about respecting Him, his body and WOMEN!

And this is how a cool thread gets derailed

bluej58 wrote: And this is how a cool thread gets derailed

Yup

Yes, lets get back to the bikes please...