Tire coming off bead while riding!!!!

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05 Apr 2011 23:35 #442894 by RonKZ650
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I don't get it really. A tubeless tire is either seated or not, no grey area. If it's not on correctly it won't hold air for 30 seconds, and once on it isn't coming off on its own even if the tire goes flat. So, glad it wasn't any worse than it was, but the whole thing having tubeless tires break loose of a tubeless wheel is not something that happens generally, and using the wrong lube, not removing the core, none of this matters $0.02 once the tire is seated, it's there forever. So whatever it was is very unusual. The main cause of rapid loss of air in a tubeless tire is using an old valve stem that breaks off and air escapes, but even then the tire won't come off the wheel. Definately sorry about the accident, hope it gets figured out soon. I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone.

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05 Apr 2011 23:48 #442899 by dejavoodo41
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I've seen car tires that were mounted balanced, put on a car and the customer drove for a couple of days and came back with a vibration. The tire was holding when it heated up you could physically see where the bead was coming off of the bead and put the tire out of balance. It's not a common thing but it can happen. I'm sure that if they would've kept driving the car like it was the tire more than likely would've come off of the the bead. Just my 2ยข

1977 KZ1000A With 1980 KZ1000A MKII engine, Wiseco 1105 kit, Dyna S Ignition, 3 Ohm Dyna Coils, Cams, Mikuni RS34 Carbs, Vance and Hines Pro Pipe with Comp Baffle

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06 Apr 2011 00:00 #442905 by jordan
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I will take it to the local shop and have them check the rim, tire, new valvestem, and maybe a new tire. It was a scary few experiences and i dont want it to happen again. Thank you all for your info

KZ810 streetfighter kz/gpz/gsxr
1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold :(
1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay :(
1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay :(
1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
1971 yamaha R5-sold
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11 Apr 2011 02:46 #444009 by steell
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RonKZ650 wrote: I don't get it really. A tubeless tire is either seated or not, no grey area. If it's not on correctly it won't hold air for 30 seconds, and once on it isn't coming off on its own even if the tire goes flat. So, glad it wasn't any worse than it was, but the whole thing having tubeless tires break loose of a tubeless wheel is not something that happens generally, and using the wrong lube, not removing the core, none of this matters $0.02 once the tire is seated, it's there forever. So whatever it was is very unusual. The main cause of rapid loss of air in a tubeless tire is using an old valve stem that breaks off and air escapes, but even then the tire won't come off the wheel. Definately sorry about the accident, hope it gets figured out soon. I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone.


Not true Ron, that's why there is an indicator ridge around the circumference of the tire so you can verify the bead is seated. Whenever someone complains of a wheel vibration the first thing I do is eyeball that ridge to verify the bead is seated. Go talk to a "real" tire guy, they will verify it.

KD9JUR

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11 Apr 2011 13:52 #444073 by RonKZ650
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True enough, I always look at the indicator closely, also another good idea is to put the wheel on an axle and spin it and make sure the tire goes around without bobbing up/down or sideways. Better to check out before mounting on the bike.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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11 Apr 2011 15:42 #444089 by T_Dub
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Also, maybe the GS wheels need tubes? I know some early KZ rims did.

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11 Apr 2011 16:12 #444095 by Stu Pidasole
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i would take it back to whoever mounted it and tell them what happened while i inserted my foot up thier ass. glad to hear you and your friend are ok.

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11 Apr 2011 16:21 #444097 by wireman
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i dont think hes that flexable! :woohoo:

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14 Apr 2011 20:15 #444640 by hoghaterkaw
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I also have a 1983 GS 1100 E. You need to run tubes, the wheels ARE NOT tubeless type. Suzuki didn't switch over to tubeless wheels until 1~2 years later. Put tubes in both tires!!
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15 Apr 2011 00:31 #444699 by RonKZ650
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Looks like the answer has been discovered. Bikebandit.com confirm tube use in 1983 still on a GS1100E. Suzuki way behind times.

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15 Apr 2011 01:41 #444705 by steell
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Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally!! A thread I can link to when I go into one of my "Never run without tubes on a tube type wheel!" rants. :P

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15 Apr 2011 07:44 #444717 by Patton
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