Yoshiumira KZ Exhaust: Measurements anyone????

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08 Apr 2010 19:20 #359376 by testarossa
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Yeah OMR, I lusted over some of those pipes on PMC for a while. Until I punched those prices into a currency converter website. Woah Baby! Four figure exhaust. Too rich for my blood.

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08 Apr 2010 19:39 #359381 by Patton

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09 Apr 2010 03:30 #359422 by T_Dub
Old Man Rock wrote:

Titanium or Stainless for that matter become extremely tricky....

example... Put too much heat to stainless and it becomes carbon steel... We use to run into this all the time in welding... Inspectors walk by with a magnet, it sticks, you're screwed... cut it out and start all over...


You can always get some 304L, be a bit easier to weld. Don't know what the price difference is though.

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09 Apr 2010 05:38 #359427 by EricHa
Here's a pic of my Yosh baffle......


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09 Apr 2010 05:50 #359429 by Old Man Rock
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Eric... Do you have some measurements to go with that baffle?

Thanks,

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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
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12 Apr 2010 05:56 #360080 by EricHa
I'll measure it tonight.

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12 Apr 2010 06:21 - 12 Apr 2010 06:23 #360084 by otakar
I love the series one and series two pipes from Yoshi. The only thing I dont like about them is that you have to remove the centerstand and the fact that you cant get to the oil filter without removing it. What I want to do is to take an old Kerker header and make a Yoshimura stile pipe for it. I have the header already and they are still easily gotten. You can also make a pipe for a MAC header, since those Yoshis were made by MAC to begin with. I have a series two on one of my Z1Rs and a series three on my 74 Z1. I also bought another series three on eBay about two years ago. If you aren't familiar with the series three, they look like a Kerker "K" series with the Aluminum Cannister.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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12 Apr 2010 07:07 #360088 by Old Man Rock
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"take an old Kerker header and make a Yoshimura stile pipe for it."...

I had thought about that as well Otto... Would be easier no doubt...

But as I got more into researching this I fell in love with the idea of hand bending my own "Curved" header and Yoshi looking tail exahust... How cool would that be to pull off...

And in accomplishing my self, as in the Kerker design, leave just enough clearance to remove the oil filter. Since neither of my KZ's have a center stand so not concerned with that. Oil filter access is a must though....

I've been looking at sevral design concepts for the baffles.... Interesting to say the least... Nopt sure which way to go right now, still researching more info regarding hole patterns, baffle twist.... may even just design for a Kerker 1.5" baffle and be done with it... :laugh:

Ah well, not in a hurry.... All in due time I guess...

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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12 Apr 2010 08:06 #360094 by EricHa
The Yosh is 3" diameter at the end of the collector, and the tailpipe is 3" front to back. The Kerker is somewhat smaller at the end of the collector, and the the tailpipe flares to 4" or so. Not sure exactly, but both are hanging in the garage. I'll try to get it measured too.

1977 Kawasaki KZ900A5
1975 Honda CB550K
1996 Ducati 900SS CR

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12 Apr 2010 08:19 #360100 by otakar
What I am wondering about is the cost of all the pipe and how much of it will be ruined by trial and error. If you are thinking about a baffle, just buy one from MAC and modify the rings. Their baffles are very good.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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12 Apr 2010 08:42 #360104 by otakar
If you read all of the old write-ups on the Yoshi, you will notice that it was one of the poorest performing pipes out there (even though it looked so good)so some changes in pipe diameter might be good. The MAC on the other hand today, is a very good performing pipe for the street. It has a fantastic mid range.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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13 Apr 2010 05:04 - 13 Apr 2010 05:06 #360296 by EricHa
The 3" diameter of the Yosh may have indeed hurt the midrange. The Kerker collector is 2.5" and my V&H was even smaller. Anyway, the Yosh baffle rings are 2 13/16", the baffle tube is 1 1/4" o.d. and is 9" long. The MAC baffle with this diameter of rings may be the way to go.

1977 Kawasaki KZ900A5
1975 Honda CB550K
1996 Ducati 900SS CR
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