Yoshiumira KZ Exhaust: Measurements anyone????

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05 Jan 2010 07:38 #341893 by Old Man Rock
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OK, fouund a calc program for exhaust pipe performance tuning... Based on camshaft BBDC & ATDC & cc...

Also found sevral sites where 1 3/4" pipe CS, SS, or Ti 14 gauge and 4-1 merge collectors are available... Can obtain
Definitely
build in mild steel first then onto the alloys such as stainless or titanium for that crap is high $$$$... :blink:

This may be duable! :woohoo:

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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05 Jan 2010 14:51 #341920 by KZ250LTD
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a member here or on another site (can't remember) posted an article from a while back about a guy who still does 'sand bending' or something along those lines. He packs the pipes with sand, heats them up and bends them by hand. Looked pretty cool and with practice could probably be as good as a pipe bender. I'll have to see if i can find the article...

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05 Jan 2010 15:19 #341923 by COE1948
I have got one of thse Yoshi pipes that is in the 75 catalogue and i have also got another collector ,i bought them both on ebay last year the pipe came from a member here if you need any measurements just let me know they are just sitting on a shelf waiting for a project to get here from the U.S.

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1x1973 Z1900,2x1974 Z1A900,2x1975 Z1B900,2x1976 KZ900s & 2x79KZ1300
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05 Jan 2010 18:43 - 05 Jan 2010 18:47 #341959 by Patton

Old Man Rock wrote:

Hey all,

Found this on the web and if anyone has this pipe, need some measurements for possible re-production....:woohoo:

OMR May be going into the exhaust fab.... :ohmy:

Attachment Yoshiumira_KZ_Exhaust.doc not found


The Holy Graile.
Also comes in chrome.
Liking your more expanded curve headers even better.

Good Luck!


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KZ900 LTD
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05 Jan 2010 18:45 #341960 by Patton
Old Man Rock wrote:

Hey all,

Found this on the web and if anyone has this pipe, need some measurements for possible re-production....:woohoo:

OMR May be going into the exhaust fab.... :ohmy:

Attachment Yoshiumira_KZ_Exhaust.doc not found


More expanded curve headers.

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05 Jan 2010 19:09 - 05 Jan 2010 19:11 #341965 by WPBill
What you folks here call "expanded curve" are in Japan called temage, which stands for "hand bent," meaning the header portions are bent by hand and not manufactured by machinery. These hand bent pipes are much more pricier than the normal machine bent pipes, i.e. the ones with the two 90 degree bends with a length of straight pipe inbetween.

I'd wager there are no exact measurements for the header portion of the handbent pipes, so go ahead and bend away. A nice graceful curve which allows for the smooth flow of gases is what you are looking for.

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Kamakura JAPAN, 1975 Z1B (x2, both in storage)
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05 Jan 2010 19:58 #341977 by Old Man Rock
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Thanks for the encouragement guys... B)

It will be a ways off till I get to this for have a whole slew of other more important crap to do first... Just came across this in a discussion with Plum and thought whoa, that would be totally cool to pull that one off...

Freakin probably cost me more than I could just buy one :blush: but would be sweet just the same...

Ah well more research to go yet... I do like the sand fill bend idea for that would seem to definitely work.... The mandrel uses a inner material that would be pretty much the same concept during the pipe bend, keep the pipe from creasing versus curving/bend...

Hmmmmm.... me wonder! :woohoo: :laugh:

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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06 Jan 2010 13:39 #342022 by gershom
I've got a near mint Nico Bakker pipe from Holland that I'm trying to find out more info on. Bought it from one of the fine members from here.

I to would like a real Yosh pipe for my arsenal. Along with a Bassani from the era.

1978 KZ1000A2A, 1971 CB500K, 1972 CB350F, 1974 Guzzi 850T, 1974 Guzzi 850T, 1975 Guzzi 850T Hot Rod, 1966 BSA A65 Lightning, 1978 SR500

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06 Jan 2010 14:15 - 06 Jan 2010 14:20 #342024 by mark1122
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Old Man Rock wrote:

Hey all,

Found this on the web and if anyone has this pipe, need some measurements for possible re-production....:woohoo:

OMR May be going into the exhaust fab.... :ohmy:

Attachment Yoshiumira_KZ_Exhaust.doc not found

That is 1 pritty pipe Dave. I love the hand bent look. for me it could only be better if it swept upwards at the end, so it finishes above the rear axle.:woohoo: :woohoo:
Excuse me, i must go dry off now.
I have a spare Yosh pipe myself, not the hand bent type though. unfortunatly , with my wider swingarm, i cant try it out, without modifiing it. there always seems to be somthing higher on my priority list, and the pipe stays at the bottom of the list. If only i could find that money tree.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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06 Jan 2010 16:47 #342036 by PLUMMEN
that hand bent pipe hangs way down below motor,gives up too much ground clearance for me anyway B)

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06 Jan 2010 18:00 #342047 by Jack
Yoshimura ( Pops & Fujio days) hand bent the pipes seen on most of their superbikes, especially on the Zuks. The pipe from the catalogue was the street version sold by Yoshimura and Dale Star who owned the Yosh name/product line for a while in the 70's.

Moriwaki had the nicest hand bent pipes for the Z imho.and looked a lot like the one posted by OMR.

79 KZ 1075 MKll
79 KZ 1500 MKll dragbike
Gone but not forgotten:
3 X 73 Z1's
1 X 74 Z1A
1 X 75 Z1B

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06 Jan 2010 22:43 #342059 by austin3119
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Maybe this guy can help you out with some pointers.

www.cb750cafe.com/parts.php?id=70

Oh, and put me down for a pipe if this comes to fruition.

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