So.....Are You a "Biker" or a "Rider" ?

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Well said Sax. Civilization indeed!

Definitely a rider.

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No way you read all that!!! NO WAY! :laugh:

You are right Locunza I couldn't be arsed to read all that sh*t.

Just to get back to the biker or rider thing. Did you guys in the States have the mods & rockers thing in the 1960's like we had here in the UK like in the film Quadrophenia.
The rockers were the bikers in leather jackets with their BSA & various other Brit bikes & the mods were the scooterists riding their Lambrettas & Vespas with their uniform of genuine US Army parkas. The general idea in the day was for both gangs to meet up at some seaside town here, cause mayhem & beat the holy shit out of each other. I learned to ride in 1966 and owned a Lambretta 150 and was thus classed as a mod. I moved to London a cuple of years later and bought a BSA Super Rocket as I decided that I prefer bikes and a little more speed.
Funny how 40 years later those mod/rocker dislikes still prevail here. I still have a Lambretta 150 as a nostalgia item but if I ride past a "biker" cafe here in Brighton UK, I will get jeered & cat called by young guys who weren't even born in the 60's. It really pisses them if I wear a US Army parka and walk past (getting hate looks) then climb on to my KZ1100 or Triumph Thunderbird Sport.
I love all two wheelers and the Lambretta is a classic Italian design icon and really cool to ride around town- only 150cc two stroke so not the quickest in the world.

I ride, I fix, I appreciate, I am addicted and I don't mind polishing too much. I also like my Renault minibus as it is my lifeline for transporting bikes around.

Hey Tommo - I had almost exactly the same experience. Started off on a Vespa 150 "Sportique" in 1967. Got fed-up with my mate blowing past me on his Tiger Cub, and the unreliability of the Vespa, so I bought a Triumph 500 "Speed Twin". Couldn't afford new gear (still in school) so I wore my parka on the bike for the first few months - that got some funny looks!

Never did have an issue with the mods or the rockers - probably because I had the "knack" to fix engines, so both would come to our house seeking advise, or repairs!

Seems to me that much of the old rivalries have sorted themselves out over the years - check out the Ace Cafe web site and see mods and rockers happily sharing space and stories!

I do wish I still had both my Vespa and my Speed Twin - but I love my KZ too! Moved to the USA in 1978, and you really don't see scooters here much so the rivalry has to be H-D vs The Rest!

Dude! I hope you cut and pasted that from somewhere. That was more than a mouthful. lol

Loco... WTF :blink: That has to be the longest paragraph I've ever tried to read..... :S

Either you have way toooooooooo much time on your hands, are bored to tears or are just plain freakin Loco.....

Breath Loco...breath.....

bikers...

riders

And the best part was smack dab in the middle.
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LOL Dude you are loco...