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89 KZ1000P bobber? 29 Aug 2019 21:21 #810079

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What did you attach the upper strap mount to?

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 03:31 #810085

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baldy110 wrote: What did you attach the upper strap mount to?


There is a threaded bung welded to the frame there. Don't know what it was for originally. There is one on both sides. Look like they could be foot peg mounts that were added at some point.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 09:14 #810098

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Got it bet it rides a lot better now.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 11:41 #810102

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jimdgreat1 wrote: Also pulled the front sprocket cover off in preparation to replace what I think is the original chain.





Smart man! Switching to a 530 chain would be wise.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 11:51 #810103

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Smart man! Switching to a 530 chain would be wise.


I stayed with the original gear ratio and 630 chain. It will probably out last me.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 13:07 #810108

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jimdgreat1 wrote:

baldy110 wrote: What did you attach the upper strap mount to?


There is a threaded bung welded to the frame there. Don't know what it was for originally. There is one on both sides. Look like they could be foot peg mounts that were added at some point.


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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 15:10 #810111

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Holy !as! That front nut is on there! Going to have to get out the impact.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 15:18 #810113

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They have to be tight. Might try some heat in case the OP used red Loctite.
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89 KZ1000P bobber? 30 Aug 2019 18:01 #810117

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Looks like they cut off the loop for the rear exhaust mount and the side bags. Too bad but if you are not going to use bags then probably not a big loss.
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89 KZ1000P bobber? 11 Sep 2019 17:43 #810726

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I'm still trying to get the front sprocket nut off. Bought and used a Dewalt impact with 600 pounds torque. Still on there. I'm still thinking this was on from the factory. The tabs were bent over the nut very uniformly and equal on both sides.

Will I have to cut this off? I don't have my torch here. Guess I could get a cheap LP hand torch and try a little heat.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 07:15 #810745

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You can run a bolt / nut (or two bolts) through the chain behind the swingarm pivot and use a cheater bar on a breaker bar. Some heat might help, but I wouldn't get it too hot, since the rubber output shaft seal is right behind the sprocket.



It looks like someone cut the left muffler hanger bracket off of the frame while doing "improvements" to the bike. What the hell do the japs know anyway? it's gotta go! LOL :)
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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 07:30 #810746

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Yeah I don't think I should get it too hot.
Have tried a 4 foot cheater bar and this impact and holding the rear brake. It's not moving but the chain could be stretching limiting the effectiveness of the impact.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 07:35 #810747

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jimdgreat1 wrote: Yeah I don't think I should get it too hot.
Have tried a 4 foot cheater bar and this impact and holding the rear brake. It's not moving but the chain could be stretching limiting the effectiveness of the impact.


The brake isn't enough if it's that tight. You need to bolt that sucker SOLID, then try your cheater bar. The likelihood of that 630 chain stretching is slim to NONE. The brake isn't holding it. Also, be careful not to round off the nut and use a tight fitting socket. You could also try a sharp chisel to split the nut away from the shaft, but that is a last resort type of move.
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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 09:18 #810750

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Are you using a cordless impact or air? Those cordless ones won't work no matter what the manufacturer rates it's torque value at. Use a 1/2" air impact gun, it'll zip it off like it wasn't tight.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 10:09 #810752

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baldy110 wrote: Are you using a cordless impact or air? Those cordless ones won't work no matter what the manufacturer rates it's torque value at. Use a 1/2" air impact gun, it'll zip it off like it wasn't tight.


Not always the case> I have a craftsman 1/2" air impact that quite often I have to break lug nuts loose on my truck before it will budge them. (they are not even close to being stuck hard) It also depends if my compressor is fully pumped up to the 130 PSI it is set at, or if it is just at the tip-in point to recharge.

PLUS, using the brake to hold the sprocket while loosening will act as a damper to the impact blows and hinder removal of an extremely troublesome fastener. A couple of long 1/4" or 5/16" bolts through the chain links will hold the sprocket solid.

Here is a neato tool to hold the sprocket while loosening the nut. Not necessary with a few bolts.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 11:53 #810755

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Either way shown below will hold the counter sprocket from moving. Ed



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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 15:53 #810769

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650ed wrote: Either way shown below will hold the counter sprocket from moving. Ed


This is exactly what was describing above. I googled sprocket holder and all that really popped up was the dirt bike video plugging a holding tool. Obviously the dirt bike sprocket was barely tight. In using the brake to hold the front sprocket, there is also a rubber damper between the wheel and sprocket that will dampen the impact wrench blows the same way that it smooths out the engine pulses on the chain.
The rubber dampner is #14 in this snip from the FSM.
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89 KZ1000P bobber? 12 Sep 2019 18:01 #810787

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Used my dremel and cut it almost through then used a chisel and it split. There is a small amount of locktite residue. Still used the impact to knock it loose. Have a dewalt air impact. Though my hose may be a little small for optimal force. :woohoo: :whistle:

Nuts off. I'll pull it all apart Saturday and grease the bearings and bushings, mount the new parts, and be able to ride it again.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 13 Sep 2019 17:15 #810823

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Thanks old kaw. I see what you mean. Duh. Should have used bolts.

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89 KZ1000P bobber? 14 Sep 2019 07:38 #810828

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It sucks that you had to ruin the nut, because now that too needs to be replaced. A few smacks from a hammer on the socket knocking the locking plate flat will help get the socket on as far as possible. Bolting the chain solid with a tight fitting socket combined with a little heat may have saved the nut for the next time. All pure speculation on my part.

A lot of these parts are expensive and / or NLA so you should try to never ruin >anything< if at all possible. A nut like that isn't available from handy hardware and feed store. :)

I do speak from real world experience with a little bit of common sense tossed in. Been there and done that on almost every situation know to man, yet I still seem to find new mountains to conquer daily it seems. :whistle:

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