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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 06 Aug 2015 21:03 #684737

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Nice!!!
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 06 Aug 2015 23:32 #684753

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Nice work.
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 07 Aug 2015 06:05 #684766

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you guys built that into a killer piece. :evil:
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 07 Aug 2015 22:08 #684872

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What did you use and how'd you do it to get your cases and swing arm so shiny?!? :woohoo: Very nice work on your bike lately!
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 07 Aug 2015 22:40 #684874

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Jbosh - my buddy has a stand alone buffer with two wheels and a ton of different polishes. I once polished a set of fork lowers by hand and I watched all five die hard movies. I polished a set of lowers the other day and it took me 30 minutes on the buffer. Its quick work on that thing, although its not to be underestimated. I was polishing the tube that i capped the swing arm with, and at one point i blinked and the tube disappeared from my hands. two seconds later i heard it bouncing out the front door. lol

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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 08 Aug 2015 22:03 #685024

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Im trying to find some bolts for my close tolerance motor mounts. Stock is M10. I was going to go with M11 to remove the slop but those are near impossible to find so decided to go to 7/16 (11.11mm) and can't find anything over 6" in length. Would M12 be too much over? there are long M12 bolts out there but they usually come in packs of 25 and cost big money.

I'm thinking about buying some 304 or 316 stainless rod, cutting thread and welding a stainless flange nut on the end. My only concern is that this wont be strong enough. Ideally i would like grade 8.8 or higher but im having no luck

suggestions?

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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 09 Aug 2015 06:41 #685047

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Call a couple local machine shops. They might be able to build exactly what you need heat treated and everything. It will be custom and might not be more than your bag of bolts. If anything they can point you to or order from some industry vendors that don't regularly sell retail.
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 09 Aug 2015 07:28 #685052

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I have a Pingle engine mount kit on my 1000b project. The long bolts in that kit should be close to the correct length. If they are give Pingle a call they may sell you just the parts you need.
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 09 Aug 2015 17:54 #685154

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GPzMOD750 wrote: Call a couple local machine shops. They might be able to build exactly what you need heat treated and everything. It will be custom and might not be more than your bag of bolts. If anything they can point you to or order from some industry vendors that don't regularly sell retail.

I was going to call a guy that has done some excellent machining for me before and see what he has to say about the situation on monday. the problem is if i have him make them out of hardened steel I have to figure out to coat them so they don't rust. The problem with bolts like these is the industrial vendors want to sell you 250 of them at a time.

80B4 wrote: I have a Pingle engine mount kit on my 1000b project. The long bolts in that kit should be close to the correct length. If they are give Pingle a call they may sell you just the parts you need.


HA! great minds think alike. I have the pingle motor mount kit for my 1000 as well, and pulled it out to see if the bolts were the same. the longest bolt is pretty much the same length, but it is just some rod they welded a nut to like i described. the second longest one is too long.these are the only bolts I cannot find. I did some reading on the tensile strength of 316 and i think it might be adequate if i don't weld and use good nuts on the ends. Ill have to get a good die though.
the longest bolt passes through the engine when you could just bolt it on either side separately. but i would like it all the way through if i could.
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 09 Aug 2015 21:25 #685187

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I think those long bolts in the Pingle kit are high strength tool steel. I spoke to my machinest consultant and he said A2 is what he would use. Heat treated and it's done. I've also been thinking that 4130 is also a good way to go. It's not expensive and it's easy to work. McMaster.com has both in the imperial sizes needed to duplicate the Pingle kit. They also sell the reams that are needed to install.
Thanks for working on this, I'll use the information on my twin.
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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 10 Aug 2015 04:54 #685198

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There's heat treatable stainless as well.

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Saving a 1980 750 twin. 10 Aug 2015 11:03 #685251

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So i bought two alloys to try. 4340 chromoly which is on par with grade 8 bolts. and I bought some 17-4 stainless which is a precipitation hardnened alloy. Just so happens I have this....



Also my optical ignition came in. super cool. thanks for the heads up on this Jon


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