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'78 KZ1000 makeover 02 Feb 2012 00:55 #501470

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We have all been, and continue to be, dumbasses from time to time. You'll see my last "dumbass" moves here shortly in another builders thread :sick:
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In between working on some carbon fiber molds, I drug out my stock tank and started chopping it up. First I made a template identical to the O.D. of the cut out for the ZX fuel filler, and traced it on the tank:



Then I cut out a hole a little smaller to make sure everything looked like it would match up properly:



Then dropped in the ZX filler:



Then I cut the hole out to its full size:



After that I tacked in 4 tabs to support the ZX fuel filler sheet metal so that it would mate up flush with the stock tank:


And so it goes......
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Looking good man... I so want to do this.. But!!!
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Boostable wrote: Looking good man... I so want to do this.. But!!!

Whats that quote...."Just Do It!" :laugh:
Every time I do sheet metal work, I swear up and down I'm gonna buy a stud gun, but I never do, and this time is no different :whistle:


Now I gotta get back to my composite stuff, enough playing with my own project for now :woohoo:
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I love it man. do mine next!
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Wait a minute ram.. the line starts back here!!
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I'm not sure I'm the guy to be welding everyones tanks up! You guys need fabricators with more experience like blackbanshee, Les or rslingshot ;)

On that note, if I had to do it over again, I would have welded in 8 tabs instead of 4, and I would have tack welded in between every tab first, then at the tabs before doing any stitch welds to help prevent the ZX fillers sheetmetal from warping. It's a thinner gauge than the KZ tank, and it doesn't stay put as well. So I spent time last night tacking welding rod into spots to act as pullers to get the filler back into alignment with the stock tank. It was time consuming, but because I didn't have as many support tabs as I needed, and I didn't spot weld in more spots before running some short beads, it was the price I paid. Live and learn!
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Looks great! What do you use to be able to cut so well? That looks like a perfect circle and the edges are really smooth. Can't wait to see the finished product...it will look really cool.
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79MKII wrote: Looks great! What do you use to be able to cut so well? That looks like a perfect circle and the edges are really smooth. Can't wait to see the finished product...it will look really cool.


+1. I picked up a ZX tank and will be doing the same for my 900. What did you do about the tube that runs through the ZX tank from the filler to the vent?

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just wondering out loud.
would it be any easier to have cut the kz hole a little small. then u could just push down on the zx flange to keep it tight against the tank ??
someone did mine so i dont know how it was done.
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OK, the tools used were a jigsaw....and thats it. I used tin snips to cut the little tabs, a half round file to remove a little extra here and there, and a bench grinder to trim tiny bits off the ZX filler until it fit perfectly. I had scribed a perfect circle, and I went slowly with the jigsaw. Thats it in a nutshell.

The vent, I believe, has something to do with the evap system connected to the carbs. I have the vent line cut under the filler, and for the time being I will leave it open. If I need to, I will seal it off. I haven't decided on that yet.

Mark, I could have done what you suggested, and a lap joint would have been much easier to fit and weld, thats for sure! But I wanted as smooth a transition as possible between the two panels. Less bodywork with no "step" to feather in ;) I guess I'm just weird that way :whistle:
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I got the filler neck all welded in :woohoo: Pay no attention to the spots on the filler sheetmetal here and there, those are spots where I welded some rod to it to pull the panels back into alignment.
Not my prettiest welding, but it all gets ground down anyway:



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My circles never come out that good with a jigsaw. Need more practice I guess. :blush:

Wow that came out good!
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Remind me to keep you guys away from my ninja. :unsure:

Tank looks good Adam!
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Thanks! Here is the tank with the weld ground flush, and a bit more of the older prep work removed for a wider band of body filler. Probably not necessary, but a precaution I took anyway.

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And a nice good smear of body filler all the way around should do the trick!

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Looks great!! You guys are gonna convience me to do this yet!!!
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You've convinced me to hire you to do it! :lol:
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with all the modern tools I almost forgot about the jigsaw. Good stuff man! my son says he is buying a tig for his welder at his mom's house (his step dad just built a wharehouse of a garage) so I will have the ability to weld it up. When I go back to work full time I am trying it.

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You should see what cutting metal does to a jigsaw after a while. I just killed mine recently. I can't even cut plywood anymore. :( Tore it apart to see what was wrong and all of the gears are worn down to nothing. Time for some new tools. Maybe a nibbler is in order for sheet metal work. Hmmm....

By the way, Adam isn't allowed to take on any more side projects until he finishes his bike. :P
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