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05 Sep 2007 11:27 #168714 by jack2006
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Well as I said in my intro here is the project.

I have an 81 KZ550 it ran just fine for the 2 years I rode it (2 years 20k up in cold Canada). The engine began to knock a bit at the end and the performance wasn't there as well, but it worked untill the battery began to die. I replaced it but it died again.

I (brilliantly) boosted it from a car and fried something. Never checking what it was. I just got a new car and forgot about the bike. Now i need it as i rolled the car and it's well lets just leave it there.

So here it is. I have a bike (I think I lost the keys)the electrical is fried somewhere (I found it see pics).
The front rotor needs to be replaced and I'm assuming the back brake too. New tires. And fix the engine knocking.

I have 2 weeks to do this in. I'm up for it if the stars are aligned right and things go fairly smoothly.

Here she is:






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05 Sep 2007 12:23 #168726 by scumbag
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your regulator/rectifier is toast

your cars reg/rec got in a fight with your bikes over what voltage should be run....basically your car pwned your bike

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05 Sep 2007 12:44 #168733 by seanof30306
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So, how do you jump a bike from a car without frying the regulator, then? If they're both 12v systems, what is it about the car's electrical system that toasts the bike's?

"That @#$%!!! KZ650"
79 KZ650 B3
Dual front disc brakes
Z1R 18" front wheel
Pumper carbs w/pods
MAC 4-1 w/ drilled-out baffle
Dyna S ignition w/ Dyna Green coils
WG coil mod
'81 CSR charging system
17/41 gearing

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05 Sep 2007 12:50 #168734 by mariozappa
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The car needs to be TURNED OFF when you jump the bike.

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and the KZ650/KZ750 Conversion ;)
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05 Sep 2007 13:31 #168746 by seanof30306
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That explains a lot, then. When I was looking at my bike before I bought it, the battery was dead, so I kickstarted it for the test ride. All the lights, etc. worked.

Before I bought it, though, I wanted to make sure the starter worked, so the guy who was selling it used a set of motorcycle jumper cables and jumped it off. The starter worked, and I bought the bike. His truck was running when he jumped the bike.

Got it home to find out every bulb on the bike was blown out. As I worked the problem, I found the regulator was putting out 21v. I replaced all the bulbs and the regulator, and the problem was fixed.

Guess it was the jump that killed it.

Post edited by: seanof30306, at: 2007/09/05 16:34

"That @#$%!!! KZ650"
79 KZ650 B3
Dual front disc brakes
Z1R 18" front wheel
Pumper carbs w/pods
MAC 4-1 w/ drilled-out baffle
Dyna S ignition w/ Dyna Green coils
WG coil mod
'81 CSR charging system
17/41 gearing

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05 Sep 2007 14:19 #168764 by jack2006
Replied by jack2006 on topic 81 KZ550
Hmmmm yeah I'll test the voltage on the regulator and replace the fried wires...hope this will at least get it going. Then the cosmetics.

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05 Sep 2007 14:36 #168769 by iandz500
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i've jumped at least 3 different bikes off different cars all while running with no ill effects? all 12v cars and 12v bikes?

whats the deal there then?:unsure:

Bikes: 1960 lambretta Li125 sold; 2001 Honda CG125 sold; 2006 Yamaha FZ6 sold; 1980 Kawasaki Z500 sold; 1967 BSA Bantam D10; 2008 Aprilia Shiver sold; 2010 KTM Duke 690R; 1954 BSA Bantam; 1980ish Kawasaki Z200
Location: Buckinghamshire, UK

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05 Sep 2007 16:35 #168800 by jack2006
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Maybe it was the old wiring that just couldn't handle it. I've been boosting bikes of running cars before (newer though) too and had no problems untill this one.

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05 Sep 2007 17:51 #168822 by duncan
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fyi, the 1980 kz550 is the A1, and the 1981 kz550 is the A2. i recall one of the canadian members saying that there was a 1980 1/2 model which included some of the 1981 improvements:

kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_ponygal...9&func=detail&id=280

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08 Sep 2007 14:35 #169415 by jack2006
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Ok so thanks to rstnick who is a locksmith and made new keys for me, i'm into the electrical. Here is the top shot minus the seat and battery and the battery supports. I'm going to take the whole engine out clean it change the gaskets and i guess thats it...i don't know what else I should do once i have it out. Oh yeah and I'll jet it of course.

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08 Sep 2007 15:09 #169422 by seanof30306
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Having a locksmith for a friend could come in pretty handy.

especially if you're a burglar

"That @#$%!!! KZ650"
79 KZ650 B3
Dual front disc brakes
Z1R 18" front wheel
Pumper carbs w/pods
MAC 4-1 w/ drilled-out baffle
Dyna S ignition w/ Dyna Green coils
WG coil mod
'81 CSR charging system
17/41 gearing

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09 Sep 2007 18:52 #169665 by loudhvx
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iandz500 wrote:

i've jumped at least 3 different bikes off different cars all while running with no ill effects? all 12v cars and 12v bikes?

whats the deal there then?:unsure:


There are different types of charging systems out there on bikes. Only some are susceptible to frying when jumped from a running car. And for the ones that are susceptible, there's no guarantee it will fry the bike. Certain conditions must be met for the bike to fry, but to be safe, make sure the car is off.

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