KZR's Bikes of the Month for 2024

Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!

More
15 Mar 2006 03:27 #31280 by indykaw77
Replied by indykaw77 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
Be sure to post the pics;) Remember we all LIKE pics!!

Kawasaki Motorcycles...because cars lean th wrong way!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
15 Mar 2006 06:59 #31306 by KL250
Replied by KL250 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
or you could have used some cheap spray can primer and had sanding sctratches and shrinkage and reactions show up every where. The final out come is only as good as the prep work underneath. After all is it really that expensive if it ends up looking good. It sounds as if your brother knows what he is doing. I would make him look over all your stuff before you start spraying primer.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
15 Mar 2006 14:50 #31414 by BSKZ650
Replied by BSKZ650 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
watch the omni clears, have had a few issues in the past with them. the clears have not held up as well as the ppg stuff

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
15 Mar 2006 16:49 #31445 by KL250
Replied by KL250 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
Really, What was the problem with it? we have a couple vehicles around the house that have omni on them for several years and they seem to be holding up very well.
even if it dosn't have the greatist durability i still think it is well worth the money.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • ran429
  • Topic Author
  • Offline
  • User
  • Master of FREE rides!
More
15 Mar 2006 17:45 #31467 by ran429
Replied by ran429 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
BSKZ650 wrote:

watch the omni clears, have had a few issues in the past with them. the clears have not held up as well as the ppg stuff


then well uh?
I guess the next owner will get mad? im just fixing it up and probably going to sell it anyways after the season. unkess its more comfortable on my back than the Seca. I am seeing a height issue here is all. I cant be hunched at all or My back will lock up badly.

But on a side note, my brother uses it on $50,000 cars everyday and it seems fine as long as its mixed properly and maintained well.

Post edited by: ran429, at: 2006/03/15 20:46

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Mar 2006 13:14 #31741 by BSKZ650
Replied by BSKZ650 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
I painted a few sprint car bodies/ parts, the wings and such dont last long enough to see how the paint will hold up, but the body parts got a lot of chips marks on the clear,I painted one with the ppg clear and it held up great no chips or marks for the whole season or until it got crashed which ever came first

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Mar 2006 21:13 #31872 by John68
Replied by John68 on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
Did you already buy the clearcoat?

What type of paint/primer did you get?

is it Omni AU MBC basecoat? MR186 reducer?
What about the primer? The best stuff, and probably what he reccomended was PPG NCP-270, or NCP-271(difference between 270/271 is just the color)? I'd guess that's what you have, since you say it was expensive. I think the last gallon I bought was arond $170. Remember $12 a gallon redoxide laquer primer?!

I'd go with Matrix clearcoat if you haven't already bought that. Omni Clear isn't as good, and Matrix is about the same price. You will have an easier time shooting the matrix clear. Matrix MS-20 clear is the formula (that the patent ran up on) for PPG 2020 clearcoat. It is the same stuff, and since PPG doesn't carry the 2020 anymore, Matrix is the only place to get it. I have switched to DC-3000 and DC-4000 clearcoat from PPG because you can spray it, and 45 minutes later you can wetsand it, buff it, and mount it. DC-3000 is faster than the 4000, but the 4000 is better if you are painting a whole car, because by the time you get back around to where you started, the DC-3000 is already dry to the touch and leaves nasty overspray. The 3000 is really good for small pieces. The best thing about the 3000 is, 20 minutes after you shoot it(or usually by the time you get the gun cleaned out and things put away, you can lay a sheet of newspaper down on the fresh paint, and pull it right back up. It dries that quick. Of course, DC-3000 is about $220 a gallon.

If you can't find a supplier for Matrix clear, let me know.

Omni basecoat is nice stuff on a budget, but be careful of the TDS reccomendations and note that it isn't a reactive reducer, so if you have to sand anything out you'll have to wait a little longer than usual before you can start sanding.

happy painting!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
16 Mar 2006 21:55 #31875 by Johnno
Replied by Johnno on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
For those times when it just doesn't matter:

Cheap high build Primer

Cheap Basecoat and Clearcoat

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
17 Mar 2006 07:47 #31935 by rammy
Replied by rammy on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
I feel your pain in the $$$ for the color and supplies.I paid $70 for a PINT of 87 ford turadore red with 15 grams xtra of metalic and flop control in it.I just about fell over when they told me the price after they mixed it.But the final product came out BITCHEN

Post edited by: rammy, at: 2006/03/17 11:04

The barn yard;77 Kz650B-1 Kaw(the fun one) & 89 classic hog.
Chicago area-south burbs
Attachments:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
17 Mar 2006 08:38 #31947 by indytwin
Replied by indytwin on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
Seriously, how easy is it to screw up painting?

I am an A-M-A-T-E-U-R and I am considering dumping just under $300.00 into some DuPont products. I have access to a bead-blaster and a paint-booth at an Air-Force Auto-Hobby shop.

I spent $500.00 getting my frame, swingarm, mounts, kick and center stands powdercoated, so I really don't want to cheap out on the paint, but the labor'd be another 3-4 hunnert.

But what other options does the DIY'er have besides (crappy) Krylon or (hard to use) two-and-thee-part urethanes and clearcoats?

Watta Connundrum.

Post edited by: indytwin, at: 2006/03/17 11:48

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
17 Mar 2006 08:49 #31951 by mysticwolf
Replied by mysticwolf on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
Man kindda salty, I used PPG paint when I did mine. Got 3 pints of paint, black,red,gold, a pint of primer, 2 gal of thinner, QT of clear and the hardner, and all the sand paper I needed for $127.00. But that was 5 years ago

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
17 Mar 2006 09:13 #31959 by indytwin
Replied by indytwin on topic Went to the paint shop today, EXPENSIVE!
Does a paint exist that is both easy to use and provides a lusterous, long-lasting finish?

Surfing the WWW says that there are 2 alternatives to multi-component urethanes: 1. Laquer (which it turns out isn't manufactured anymore b/c of EPA regs) and 2. Water-based paints such as "Auto-Air"

Anyone have any experience with these? They're supposed to be easier to use without screwing up.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum

If you like KZR Please consider making a donation. Thank you.

KZRider is free, but not without cost.

Please consider chipping in a few bucks to help cover the cost of running the KZR servers.