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31 Mar 2008 19:28 #203397 by Nelson
Filler didn't harden - now what? was created by Nelson
Damn this sucks. I smeared a skim coat of body filler on my tail section and it aint hard. This was over 30 hrs ago. Not enough hardener!

In past I have usually run out of hardener before the can ran out, so I was trying to be more sparing, now I'm screwed.

It's almost hard in some places but I can scrape a deep groove with my fingernail easily.

Any chance it'll harden if I wait a few days?

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31 Mar 2008 20:29 #203412 by PLUMMEN
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the outside might get hard but it probably wont harden evenly and cause problems later,id say start over:(

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31 Mar 2008 20:31 #203413 by Nelson
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how to get it off? cant sand it - too soft, scraping will be horrible.

the tail is a custom part made from fiberglass mat. so the surface i applied the filler to is very rough and uneven. dammit this pisses me offff!!!!!!

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31 Mar 2008 21:04 #203423 by PLUMMEN
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how much is on there?;)

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31 Mar 2008 21:34 #203428 by Nelson
Replied by Nelson on topic Filler didn't harden - now what?
thickest is about 4mm. i guess i can scrape the bulk, but then all the stuff between the fibers ... think contact cleaner will cut it?

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01 Apr 2008 01:18 #203450 by diablo666mew
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it will not get hard it will aways be kind of sticky use a medium grad sand paper and take it out .

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01 Apr 2008 05:53 #203468 by BSKZ650
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try some heat like out of a blow dryer, then sand it off and start again

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01 Apr 2008 06:39 #203475 by kzstreetfighter71
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this happined to me a long time ago, i was lucky to have a presure washer at hand but it was on a metal body, im not sure what your workin with and will it take a beating, if not a srub bush and 30 mins of your time, there is no easy answer for this one sorry.

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01 Apr 2008 07:36 #203489 by The Gringo
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I could be wrong on this but I think this might work. Back when I ran a body shop we used to mix fiberglass resin with bondo in order to make it thinner so that air bubbles wouldn't form in the bondo. This would lessen the need to use spot putty to fill small pinholes in the work. Since fiberglass resin can be thinned by adding acetone possibly after you scrape all the uncured bondo off that you can, if you take a rag soaked in acetone you may be able to remove the remainder by wiping. I can't say with 100% certainty that this will work but you might want to try it on a small section and see what happens.

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01 Apr 2008 10:09 #203526 by bountyhunter
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Nelson wrote:

thickest is about 4mm. i guess i can scrape the bulk, but then all the stuff between the fibers ... think contact cleaner will cut it?


maybe a scotchbrite pad will work.

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01 Apr 2008 10:55 #203536 by Nelson
Replied by Nelson on topic Filler didn't harden - now what?
acetone sounds like a good idea. i already tried contact cleaner and carb cleaner, neither did much. aaaaaarrrrrgghghgh !! i'm so pissed at myself . just another squirt of harender woulda done it.

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01 Apr 2008 12:34 - 01 Apr 2008 12:37 #203548 by PLUMMEN
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ive used acetone on metal parts with no problem,but ive also seen it eat certain kins of plastics.be carefull out there!;)

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