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07 Oct 2021 08:15 #856302 by Qsmothers3
Extremely high rpms on start. was created by Qsmothers3
So im still working on my '82 kz440 ltd. I've gone back to the stock airbox/cap thinking that would solve my high idle issue.....it hasn't. I replaced the carb boots to the engine thinking there was an air leak there, didn't fix anything. The problem is when I start the engine it revs up to 6000 rpm and will not come down. There is some backfiring and white smoke from both exhausts while it is running. Today there was also a very small amount of oil under the bike.....I have new plugs/wires, new throttle cable, I have the mixture screws out 2 turns. The only way that I can get the rpms to drop is to stuff pieces of shop towels in the filter cap. When I do that it idles at a smooth 1000 rpm but I cant give it any throttle without it dying.....I am just so lost at this point any help would be appreciated. 

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07 Oct 2021 08:29 #856304 by Mikaw
Replied by Mikaw on topic Extremely high rpms on start.
Have you tried to run the bike with the throttle cable(s) disconnected?

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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07 Oct 2021 08:59 - 07 Oct 2021 09:02 #856308 by Warren3200gt
Replied by Warren3200gt on topic Extremely high rpms on start.
During the work have you had the carbs apart and bench set the slides without ensuring that you idle screw was set mid point. Sounds like your slides are not being able to close sufficiently.
could also be caused by the throttle cables being poorly adjusted creating the same slide issue.


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07 Oct 2021 10:35 #856314 by Qsmothers3
Replied by Qsmothers3 on topic Extremely high rpms on start.
I have not tried that. Ill give it a try. Its really weird. The idle screw is all the way out, there is literally slack on the throttle cable. Even if I turn the mixture screws all the way in it still idles at 6k. The only thing that will bring it down is reducing air intake. 

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07 Oct 2021 10:37 #856315 by Qsmothers3
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I have no clue how to set the slides....I will do some research and see if I can figure it out. 

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07 Oct 2021 10:53 #856317 by Qsmothers3
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I just tried disconnecting the throttle cable, the issue persists. 

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07 Oct 2021 11:19 #856318 by Scirocco
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Are the vaccum ports on the carbs plugged?

 

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07 Oct 2021 11:50 #856320 by Qsmothers3
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One vacuum port is capped. The other goes to the petcock and I have it plugged off because I am just gravity feeding the cars at the moment. 
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07 Oct 2021 11:54 #856321 by Qsmothers3
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I just tested the slides on the bench with compressed air and they seem to be sliding with no leaks. I re-checked the air box and all boots for cracks and there is none. I got a brand new air filter in the cleaner cap, should I soak it in something?? Also is there supposed to be a filter inside the air box below the air cleaner cap? 

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07 Oct 2021 12:13 #856322 by Mikaw
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1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.

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07 Oct 2021 12:37 - 07 Oct 2021 12:39 #856324 by Scirocco
Replied by Scirocco on topic Extremely high rpms on start.
Your LH carb is a way out of sync and your sync adjustment need a fix. The washer and spring belongs under the butterfly accutator of the RH carb tab. Washer on top of the spring.

 
Last edit: 07 Oct 2021 12:39 by Scirocco.
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07 Oct 2021 12:41 #856325 by Qsmothers3
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I didn't even notice that. Thank you! This probably won't fix the issue but never the less it needs to be fixed. 

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