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10 Feb 2021 18:03 #843300 by Bluegoose
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1981 LTD 750 H1

Just noticed a gas leak at the "T" fuel tube. It doesn't appear to be cracked but fuel is leaking at the area where the tube goes into carb #3. I see there are o rings available for it on partszilla so I plan to order a couple. Does this sound like the fix or is there something else I should be looking at? Also I'm wondering can I keep carb #4 and #3 connected when I take it apart or do they need to be taken apart separately (I've never taken them apart before). Thanks for any and all enlightenment you can provide.

1981 Kawasaki LTD 750
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10 Feb 2021 18:48 #843301 by hardrockminer
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You will have to take the carbs off the rack to remove the T.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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10 Feb 2021 18:54 #843302 by Nessism
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O-ring sizes

Pilot Screw: 1.2 x 2.6
Pilot Plug: 1.5 x 2.8
Fuel Transfer Tubes: 2.0 x 5.5
Drain Screws: 1.4 x 4.0
Float Bowl: 2.0 x 67
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11 Feb 2021 04:44 - 11 Feb 2021 04:47 #843308 by Warren3200gt
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I think the fuel t and carb fuel couplings o ring size is 2 X 8 for mikuni VM carbs. Not sure what's on your bike?


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11 Feb 2021 04:53 #843309 by Nessism
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Warren3200gt wrote: I think the fuel t and carb fuel couplings o ring size is 2 X 8.


O-rings are sized by thickness and ID. 2.0 x 5.5 is the correct size. I buy O-rings in bulk because I restore a lot of carbs for people.

The O-rings on the Tee and fuel transfer tubes get exposed to the outside environment and are the first to get hard and brittle. They typically literally crack and crumble when removing them.

Unganging the carbs is a bit of a pain but necessary when rebuilding a set. The challenge with the CV34's is the choke system. You might want to take photos of the linkages and how that tiny spring fits in the system. I use red loctite on the butterfly screws when replacing them and I also upset the head just like the factory does. I made a small nub by grinding a piece of file, then that gets positioned in the backside of the screw and it gets pinched with high leverage pliers to flare out the end. I've got photos showing the process if anyone is interested.
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11 Feb 2021 08:31 #843317 by katit
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Nessism wrote: I've got photos showing the process if anyone is interested.

Interested!

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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11 Feb 2021 12:58 #843332 by Nessism
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First photo shows the nub made from a piece of file stuck to some channel lock type pliers using modeling clay.
Second photo shows screw being flared.
Third photo shows the nub stuck in the back side of the screw after flaring. A pair of needle nose pliers is used to reach inside the carb and remove the nub from the screw.
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11 Feb 2021 13:04 #843333 by calum
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Thanks Ed. Do you pre-drill the ends of the screws?

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11 Feb 2021 13:33 #843336 by Bluegoose
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Warren3200gt wrote: I think the fuel t and carb fuel couplings o ring size is 2 X 8 for mikuni VM carbs. Not sure what's on your bike?

Keihin CV34

1981 Kawasaki LTD 750

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11 Feb 2021 14:15 #843342 by Bluegoose
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Nessism wrote: O-ring sizes

Pilot Screw: 1.2 x 2.6
Pilot Plug: 1.5 x 2.8
Fuel Transfer Tubes: 2.0 x 5.5
Drain Screws: 1.4 x 4.0
Float Bowl: 2.0 x 67


Thank you good sir. Question, where do you purchase 0-rings in quantity? I know partszilla has them but lordy their prices. I'd love to get a bunch of these sizes for a furture rebuild as I have a spare set of carbs sitting around that I'd like to rebuild to have as a ready spare. Thanks!

1981 Kawasaki LTD 750

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11 Feb 2021 15:27 #843345 by Mikaw
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I think I’ve heard Nessism mention Cycle o rings

www.cycleorings.com/

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1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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11 Feb 2021 15:36 #843347 by Nessism
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Mikaw wrote: I think I’ve heard Nessism mention Cycle o rings

www.cycleorings.com/


cycleorings has kits for Suzuki GS type BS (CV) and VM carbs and most of the sizes will fit KZ version Mikuni's, but not all. It's a good starting place though.

I get O-rings from either McMaster Carr or The O-ring Store. Buna N O-rings are fine, if not preferred for carbs, although some people like Viton.
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