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02 Feb 2006 19:51 #21229 by hardr0ck68
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Ok so im getting close to firing up my kz650 c1 (1977). Now the carbs have been broken down, cleaned and rebuilt. They look nice, i just need to know where to set my air screw. The manual says 1 and 1/8 turn from seated; however that is listed for a different style of carb that apperently has the air screw inside the float bowl. Mine is loacted abouve the float bowl and is easily accessable when the carb is mounted.

So where do i set this bad boy? Im sooo close to making this beast fire (then i just need to deal with the suspension, breaks, and stearing :blink: )

1977 kz650 c1

bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.

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02 Feb 2006 20:25 #21233 by wireman
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try 1 1/4-1 1/2 should be a good starting point!B) goodluck,happy wrenching!

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02 Feb 2006 20:34 #21236 by hardr0ck68
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From seated (screwed all the way in then backed out that far) or from the first thread?

Thanks for the help.

im espacally worried, because it will be the first time i run this size motor (i have worked on old international tractors before, but they are a bit different) and i wont know if its running just right when i fire it up. I fear i may run it way to lean and cause a motor meltdown....

1977 kz650 c1

bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.

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02 Feb 2006 20:48 #21239 by wireman
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seatedB)

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02 Feb 2006 21:36 #21244 by OKC_Kent
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lightly seated, you don't want to break the tip off

Oklahoma City, OK
78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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03 Feb 2006 05:31 #21260 by wireman
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good point,gotta use a little common sense on that one!does it have a spring under it? :whistle:

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03 Feb 2006 19:36 #21375 by DanOz7Five0
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Once you do get it running, shut the lights off in the garage after a minute or 2. I only noticed in the dim light that I was too lean as #1 pipe was turning red.

Early congrats on getting it running, its a great feeling.

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04 Feb 2006 17:03 #21495 by hardr0ck68
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Yeah there must be springs under the adjustment screws, i could feel them bind as i was seating the screws.

Well i still have to chance the oil, plugs, throttle cables, charge the battery, and make up some kind of temp gas tank to feed the girl. Hopefully she will breath some fire and wake up!!

Thanks for the tip with the lights. How hot is to hot? I have a lazer thermometer so it would be easy to check.

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04 Feb 2006 17:55 #21509 by DanOz7Five0
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Sheeesh I will try to answer before you ask again :P

Hopefully someone else will know a good operating temp. I just kind of freaked when I saw mine glowing (thought, this is cool looking, but it cant be right), but I dont know what temp they were at.

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04 Feb 2006 22:14 #21563 by RonKZ650
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I don't know either, but can say an infrered thermometer cannot be used on chrome exhausts. If you do, you'll just reflect and measure ambiant air temp.
DanOz7Five0 wrote:

Sheeesh I will try to answer before you ask again :P

Hopefully someone else will know a good operating temp. I just kind of freaked when I saw mine glowing (thought, this is cool looking, but it cant be right), but I dont know what temp they were at.


321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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04 Feb 2006 23:36 #21573 by BRGMGBGT
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but can say an infrered thermometer cannot be used on chrome exhausts. If you do, you'll just reflect and measure ambiant air temp.


Hmm, I'd argue that point, about not being able to use an IFR thermometer. I've tried mine and it seems to work, may not be 'xactly right though ;) . If you're thinking about the red laser dot, that's just to show you where you are looking. the Thermometer is reading the radiated infrared from the pipes.
I have a hard time getting a repeatable reading, but i think thats because of the shape of the pipes and I have to make sure I read at about the same spot on each pipe, the hottest is at the sharp downward bend. I tried the IFR Thermometer just after starting the bike, and letting it warm up, the first time 1,2,&3 were reading around 260-280or so, and 4 was at 180.
after rebuild all are reading about 220 to 240. It seems low, but I was more interested in the difference between the pipes rather than the exat temp.

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05 Feb 2006 12:47 #21687 by hardr0ck68
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well i know i dont have any worries about stuff reflecting off my pipes ;) the rust and gunk will make sure of that!

I have never really trusted the temps i got off it; but they always seem to be in the ballpark of what i need.

Well if they glow in the dark i will know there is a serious issue.

Now the manuel says to turn them one full turn in either direction and listen for the motor reving to set the air screws. Will the motor rev high and sound better if it is lean enough to cause issues? Basically im asking if i follow the clymer manuels instructions could i be setting myself up for motor meltdown??

And final question, how sensitive are the choke seals, i have one that looks shot, but im wondering if i can get away with if for the time being, as i would not like to break the carbs down that far.

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bought it because I was told it would never run again...I like to prove people wrong.

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