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23 Jun 2022 12:07 #869251 by woodman
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Looking for advice on reasonably priced pressure bleeder for rear brakes on 82 GPZ750R. Rebuilt the rear master cyl and getting any pressure to bleed them is kicking my butt. Im going to try reverse filling the lines with brake fluid using an old pump oil can I cleaned out with alcohol. Good idea or not ? Thanks for the help

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23 Jun 2022 12:44 #869252 by Wookie58
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You may find it easier to use a vacum bleeder and draw the fluid through the system to the bleed nipple, they are around £20 from Amazon (also less likely to make a mess of your paintwork than a pressure bleeder)
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23 Jun 2022 13:44 #869255 by woodman
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Could you recommend a good one?  My bike has the remote reservoir, an 82 GPZ750 and Im in Montana US

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23 Jun 2022 14:25 - 23 Jun 2022 14:30 #869256 by Scirocco
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I use some wraps of PTFE Teflon tape on the bleeder threads to get an airtight sealing during the normal and vaccum bleeding process.
Otherwise air could be permanently suck in through the bleeder threads when you release the brake pedal. Ask your plumber next to you for the tape.



 
 
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23 Jun 2022 14:47 - 23 Jun 2022 14:50 #869259 by Wookie58
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Could you recommend a good one?  My bike has the remote reservoir, an 82 GPZ750 and Im in Montana US
I have recently bought this one (haven't used it for bleeding yet as I bought it to test the "active" engine mounts on my car) it holds a vacum no problem with a couple of pumps. With vacum bleeding the seal is less critical as you are sucking from the nipple (so to speak) so you won't introduce air to the system REMEMBER TO CLOSE THE NIPPLE BEFORE YOU RELEASE THE VACUM

 
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23 Jun 2022 14:50 #869260 by TexasKZ
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Mytivac makes a good one.

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23 Jun 2022 17:51 #869270 by Nessism
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I bled the brakes on my car a few weeks back and used a pressure bleeder; bought an attachment for the master cylinder, then hooked up a pressure canister to push the fluid through the system.  I've used vacuum bleeders before, but never again.  The pressure system works WAY better.  Problem, though, is rigging up a cap of some sort, so pressure can be applied.  If you have a spare cap then it would be easy by attaching a nipple of some sort, so pressure could be applied.  

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24 Jun 2022 00:39 #869278 by Wookie58
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I bled the brakes on my car a few weeks back and used a pressure bleeder; bought an attachment for the master cylinder, then hooked up a pressure canister to push the fluid through the system.  I've used vacuum bleeders before, but never again.  The pressure system works WAY better.  Problem, though, is rigging up a cap of some sort, so pressure can be applied.  If you have a spare cap then it would be easy by attaching a nipple of some sort, so pressure could be applied.  
I don't disagree that pressure is better for a car due to the distance between master cylinder and callipers and the added components in the system (ABS pump, reduction valves etc) the problem with using a DIY pressure bleeder set up is the risk of spraying brake fluid over painted components (it's a great paint stripper if not hosed down immediately) that is why I suggested the vacum option (IMHO)

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24 Jun 2022 06:08 #869287 by ThatGPzGuy
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If you are having that much trouble getting the air out of the rear brakes, the problem may be elsewhere. That is, not air trapped in the system but rather air getting in from somewhere else or the MC was improperly reassembled or with incorrect parts. 

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24 Jun 2022 08:59 #869291 by DOHC
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If you are having that much trouble getting the air out of the rear brakes, the problem may be elsewhere. That is, not air trapped in the system but rather air getting in from somewhere else or the MC was improperly reassembled or with incorrect parts. 
 
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.  Many folks here have had issues with debris and rust clogging the very small diameter relief port.  When this happens it typically makes it very hard or impossible to bleed the system.  Here is a recent post talking about the issue.  There are many others.

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/409303-rear-...-off?start=36#868749

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24 Jun 2022 15:20 #869305 by ckahleer
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I some times reverse fill the brake system using a 60cc syringe filled with brake fluid. Start with little or no fluid in the mc resiver and push the 60cc of fluid through the slave bleed port.

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24 Jun 2022 15:23 #869306 by Mikaw
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I agree with GPzGuy and DOHC, Your masking a problem. I have rebuilt several M/C’s and all have built pressure within the first or second pump. You have a problem in the system that needs addressing. 

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