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05 Nov 2015 06:40 #697320 by calegg
18" wheel '81 750 ltd was created by calegg
So I'm in the process of turning an '81 750 LTD into a cafe racer-ish. I like the look of the front and rear wheels and tires being the same size and I'm trying to keep with as much Kawasaki parts as possible not to change the look but just the overall appearance if that makes sense. My bike came with a 19" front and 16" rear. Ive looked and looked but havent found anything really straight forward on the topic but what would be the pro's and con's of going to an 18"rear since that seems like the easiest option, and is there a direct fit from another bike? Im new to motorcycles so any help is greatly appreciated.

'81 kz750 LTD - first bike, first project.

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05 Nov 2015 07:26 #697330 by Nessism
Replied by Nessism on topic 18" wheel '81 750 ltd
The 750E model uses an 18" rear wheel. You should be able to do the swap with original Kawasaki parts. I'm not sure exactly what parts will transfer over between the LTD and E model so you may want to look up the various rear end part numbers and see what parts are common between the two. Partzilla has a good part fishe, or you can use Kawasaki.com and look up the parts manual that way too. ebay has scads of used parts for cheap prices so it shouldn't be difficult to gather what you need on the cheap.

good luck

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05 Nov 2015 07:38 - 05 Nov 2015 07:39 #697332 by calegg
Replied by calegg on topic 18" wheel '81 750 ltd
would doing this cause me to lose much power or cause me to have handling issues?

'81 kz750 LTD - first bike, first project.
Last edit: 05 Nov 2015 07:39 by calegg. Reason: sentence issue

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05 Nov 2015 08:11 #697337 by Rockranch
Replied by Rockranch on topic 18" wheel '81 750 ltd
As a rear tire increase in height, it would reason that the gearing would change as well, equivalent to going to a bigger rear sprocket. I have done that 16" up to 18" swap with larger KZ's with no noticeable handling issues. I can't really see a 750 being much different.

calegg wrote: would doing this cause me to lose much power or cause me to have handling issues?


(2)-1976 KZ900B-LTD's
1-all stock low mileage...
1 modified
1977 KZ1000 (awaiting resurrection!) :)
...and an old school Honda CB750 Chopper is next on my bucket list!

Oh...and a Pocket Rocket lol!!!

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05 Nov 2015 11:48 #697356 by PDXDave
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I did that swap on my 80 1000 LTD and all it did was improve the handling (raised rear ride height=quicker turn in) I did drop one tooth on the counter shaft sprocket to compensate for the taller wheel and tire combo. It's MUCH quicker now and any top speed loss is meaningless on this bike, as its really not "top speed" fast anyway. I'd rather have it quick... Lol

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05 Nov 2015 14:04 #697371 by Rockranch
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PDXDave wrote: I did that swap on my 80 1000 LTD and all it did was improve the handling (raised rear ride height=quicker turn in) I did drop one tooth on the counter shaft sprocket to compensate for the taller wheel and tire combo. It's MUCH quicker now and any top speed loss is meaningless on this bike, as its really not "top speed" fast anyway. I'd rather have it quick... Lol

The increase in bottom end torque can make for a better wheelie-bike! :) VROOM-VROOM"!!!

(2)-1976 KZ900B-LTD's
1-all stock low mileage...
1 modified
1977 KZ1000 (awaiting resurrection!) :)
...and an old school Honda CB750 Chopper is next on my bucket list!

Oh...and a Pocket Rocket lol!!!

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06 Nov 2015 03:29 - 06 Nov 2015 04:49 #697419 by martin_csr
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How much taller would the rear wheel & tire have to be to make a noticeable difference? I did the math using the recommended tire sizes & they're about the same. A 750E rear wheel/tire is about a 1/2-inch larger in diameter than the Ltd & the circumference is about 1.75 inches greater. The actual tire measurements will most likely vary depending upon the tire mfg, so the difference could be more or less ---- but a 1/2 inch height difference doesn't seem like much.
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06 Nov 2015 06:34 #697439 by PDXDave
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The difference was more like an inch on my 1000 LTD, plus it was over geared anyway. The re-gearing made it a far nicer bike to ride in the real world... At least for me.

As far as wheelies go, my primary rider is a Aprilia Tuono... Nuf said.

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06 Nov 2015 07:24 - 06 Nov 2015 07:28 #697447 by Rockranch
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My '16 ZX14R does wheelies sitting still...I was talking old school bikes. But still hard to top my H2 tripple, no matter what era.

(2)-1976 KZ900B-LTD's
1-all stock low mileage...
1 modified
1977 KZ1000 (awaiting resurrection!) :)
...and an old school Honda CB750 Chopper is next on my bucket list!

Oh...and a Pocket Rocket lol!!!
Last edit: 06 Nov 2015 07:28 by Rockranch. Reason: unf

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08 Nov 2015 12:00 - 08 Nov 2015 12:01 #697775 by redhawk4
Replied by redhawk4 on topic 18" wheel '81 750 ltd
My advice would be to get an 18" rear wheel complete with axle spacers and sprocket carrier, to be certain everything will fit together, my wheel swap was even held up by the cush drive from the original wire wheels not working with the Kawasaki alloy rims because it needs some little semi circle cutouts to fit right.

I worked out for my KZ1000 that the difference in tire diameter between the 16" and 18" was such that 15/33 gearing with a 16" is the same as 15/35 with the 18" wheel. using Avon tire sizes. They quote a 130/90/16 at 25.1" diameter and a 120/90/18 at 26,6" in diameter. So the rear of the bike will be lifted about 0.75". The handling should be better with an 18" wheel, fitting the wide tire on a 16" was done for for "show than go". Depending on how your bike feels now, you may find the higher gearing from the 18" wheel to be desirable.

1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400

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08 Nov 2015 13:55 #697801 by martin_csr
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If he gets a 750E rear wheel, i bet everything will swap. He can double-check at Kawasaki.com or partzilla to confirm, but I'm pretty sure the stuff is the same.

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08 Nov 2015 15:47 #697817 by redhawk4
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I think if you are going Kawasaki Alloy rim to Kawasaki Alloy rim you are most likely correct, but sometimes on older bikes things have got swapped around over the years. Buying the whole assembly is easier and cheaper than piecing bits together if it doesn't go to plan and then you can always sell the bits you don't need on eBay.

1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400

Old enough to know better, still too young to care

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