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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 16:46 #699458

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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 17:58 #699467

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One thing for certain is to my personal taste the GS750 and GS1000 leave me pretty cold compared to my burning passion for the Kawasaki KZ and GPz models. I've noticed with my KZ's, that even younger people who have no idea what they are or their significant heritage really get a buzz out of their appearance. My neighbor from over the street came around today wanting to borrow some tools and he was there drooling over my KZ1000 for quite a while, when I opened the garage up, walking round it several times stopping to study it from every angle and pointing out things he liked finishing with the "duck bill" tapping it with a finger and saying "I love the look of that". The bike is at least 5 years older than he is, but I could tell it was still "speaking to him" the way it does to me. It actually gives me quite a kick to see how even 20 year old's seem to be able to appreciate these bikes. With other older things I appreciate, I sometimes see their eyes glaze over because they cannot see the appeal. People will still want to be riding these KZ's long after we are gone from the appearance of things - that makes them real classics in my books.
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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 18:11 #699470

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Happens every day. B)
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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 18:17 #699474

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Honestly, same gets done with the GS series folks; this one got bought from me at the gas station on my way home from work. :whistle: and the guy was younger than me, and I'm 28 folks, he just couldn't stop himself.



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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 18:34 #699477

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Two that I restored. Kept the better one.

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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 18:44 #699479

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I like the rims.
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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 18:48 #699481

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Much as I would like to like those GS's they just don't do it for me, the GS1000s in blue and white might be hard to resist, but I've passed on some really nice examples of the other models, they just didn't get my juices flowing. Different strokes for different folks, horses for courses etc. but then I even find the Honda CB750's that really get some people lathered up unappealing to look at. The Z!'s and KZ's still have my vote after all these years, regardless of how they handle on the move, they still look the best when standing still :).
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Re:Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 19 Nov 2015 18:54 #699482

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I like them all. I had a Yamaha 1100 in my bay. Too bad the owner was hacking it up. :( I wouldn't put the money in them as I have in Bossie.
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Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 20 Nov 2015 04:30 #699506

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redhawk4 wrote: I don't know about the swing arms, I guess changing one for a stronger aftermarket one would answer that particular question.


a braced stock arm can make a huge difference when you are pushing one.
here are a few i've done.





when it was time to address my own 80 z1r's handling i went with a 17x6 inch wide rim with a 190mm wide tire :whistle: .
it's overkill.but rock solid in the corners with no added frame bracing.

i'm sure a good 160 series tire would hold one of these bikes juts fine.

what i'm saying is a good strong arm can go along ways to taming one of these old beasts :evil:

leon

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looks like some folks think the uki steel arm could use a lil help to.

only added a lil bracing to the frame tho.
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Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 20 Nov 2015 05:02 #699513

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I really like the look of those braced swing arms too, nice work.

I wonder if the rear suspension units have a problem with not being matched in terms of performance, it seems that, with a less than rigid swing arm, that would have the rear wheel moving round and steering the rear end every time you go over a bump.
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Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 20 Nov 2015 05:02 #699514

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I want one. :whistle:
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Kawasaki vs Suzuki frames. 20 Nov 2015 05:22 #699519

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redhawk4 wrote: I really like the look of those braced swing arms too, nice work.

I wonder if the rear suspension units have a problem with not being matched in terms of performance, it seems that, with a less than rigid swing arm, would have the rear wheel moving round and steering the rear end every time you go over a bump.


thanks for the kind words.
and,
yes the stock swingarms have the rigidity of a limp noodle.
there are pictures of eddie lawson on the "black beast"with a stock braced swingarm before they started making the underbraced s1 swingarm.


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i make what i can,and save the rest!

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