5/8 offset sprocket measure question
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
15 Mar 2013 11:35
hey thanks for the vote of confidence there sir haybus :whistle: :lol:
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
15 Mar 2013 11:50 - 15 Mar 2013 11:55Haybus wrote: Here's what I did. Clamped a straight piece of aluminum angle to the inner face of the rear sprocket, making sure to contact as much of the sprocket face as I could. Then measured the offset from the inner face of the front stock sprocket. Can't change where the sprocket meets the transmission so figured that was a good base. Came up with something larger then 5/8. Machined the cush drive hub to make the offset 5/8. Then made a spacer that was 5/8 minus the thickness of the 630 sprocket. Clamped it all together, back to the straight edge, and laid the chain on to verify alignment before making the offset sprocket. (Offset the wheel a few mm cause I have a 6" wheel, but don't tell anyone :sick: ).
Doesn't matter what sprockets you're using as long as you measure from the mount surfaces. If you're using different sprockets than you intend to use you'll need to account for that.
This is how I did mine also, written above....worked out great for me. Centered rear rim/wheel, clamped on angle iron and set spacing on rear rim to center or line up sprockets.
Here's what I did. Clamped a straight piece of aluminum angle to the inner face of the rear sprocket, making sure to contact as much of the sprocket face as I could. Then measured the offset from the inner face of the front stock sprocket. Can't change where the sprocket meets the transmission so figured that was a good base.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
15 Mar 2013 18:08
Ya my wheel is centered "currently".
This is the plan. Leon's going to make me a 19T 520 18mm (safest bet I figure, feel free to comment) sprocket. I'm going to run the skinny racing chain 18.5mm and I will tunnel the frame a little, f*ck it. I will then see how that lines up.
Say run 19/41 @520 for teeth? Thats close enough to stock and should get me extra swingarm clearance on both the front and the back that others have been worried about. I was thinking with the 57mm carb I probly could afford to reduce the gearing as I figure I will lose some throttle response in the initial RPMs but I'm a bit worried running the 40T due to clearance.
This is the plan. Leon's going to make me a 19T 520 18mm (safest bet I figure, feel free to comment) sprocket. I'm going to run the skinny racing chain 18.5mm and I will tunnel the frame a little, f*ck it. I will then see how that lines up.
Say run 19/41 @520 for teeth? Thats close enough to stock and should get me extra swingarm clearance on both the front and the back that others have been worried about. I was thinking with the 57mm carb I probly could afford to reduce the gearing as I figure I will lose some throttle response in the initial RPMs but I'm a bit worried running the 40T due to clearance.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
15 Mar 2013 19:12Hollywoodmx wrote: Ya my wheel is centered "currently".
This is the plan. Leon's going to make me a 19T 520 18mm (safest bet I figure, feel free to comment) sprocket. I'm going to run the skinny racing chain 18.5mm and I will tunnel the frame a little, f*ck it. I will then see how that lines up.
Say run 19/41 @520 for teeth? Thats close enough to stock and should get me extra swingarm clearance on both the front and the back that others have been worried about. I was thinking with the 57mm carb I probly could afford to reduce the gearing as I figure I will lose some throttle response in the initial RPMs but I'm a bit worried running the 40T due to clearance.
Sounds like a pretty good plan.
I run 19/40 with 530 (same pitch as 520), there's plenty of swingarm clearance and the bike accelerates like a rocket.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
16 Mar 2013 02:55 - 16 Mar 2013 13:30Hollywoodmx wrote:Patton wrote: Who's on first? :lol:
Good Fortune!
Gets worse.. man this offset issue really has me computing..
520= 5.8mm
525= 7.05
530= 8.74
630= 9.5 (estimated)
That is with me measuring sprockets in stock which they are vortex sprockets.
Taken from the DID website, a 520 VM2 X-ring chain has a 22.95mm outside pin width, while their 520 VT2 X-ring chain is only 18.70mm.
Divide that 520 chain /2 thats 9.5mm, 18-9.5=8.5
the difference of the 520 rear 3.mm that would put me at 114mm .
Minus the 8.5 I can allow before tire rub that would put me at 105.5
105.5 - 85 = 20.5 = 51/64"
4mm over 5/8ths..Doh!
BUT since the 520 chain is thinner I can run 3mm closer to the frame than the 5/8s 530 offset sprocket so if I go with a 19mm offset 520 sprocket I will be 1mm of true which is good enough because I have done some rounding as well.
Leon where are you???I need a 19mm offset 520 sprocket! :whistle:
Zed I might be second guessing the math. I got a good strait edge today and it got me 25.5mm or 15/16 offset front. *Edit the lazer was around 7/8 to 29/32.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
16 Mar 2013 15:27
Stand by. I think I have a much better solution that what I even proposed before. Testing. It think this could be the ultimate fix for everyone with big rear tires.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
16 Mar 2013 22:08 - 16 Mar 2013 22:13
Ok this is the best idea so far, I think this might help a bunch of people.
Take one of these, a blank 520 sprocket. Hollow out the middle to desired size.
shop.pbisprockets.com/product.sc?productId=503
Then make an adaptor like these so that puts the sprocket to a negative offset. Get your measurements right and done!
Take one of these, a blank 520 sprocket. Hollow out the middle to desired size.
shop.pbisprockets.com/product.sc?productId=503
Then make an adaptor like these so that puts the sprocket to a negative offset. Get your measurements right and done!
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
16 Mar 2013 22:21 - 16 Mar 2013 22:27
Now here is the fun part with my build.. I'm such a dummy. I should have noticed this earlier. The R1 rear sprocket has a positive offset... I flipped my sprocket and now I am good shape. Pics to follow. 
One with ruler and tape measure. Then with the laser and tape measure and laser and calliper. Looks Like I'm good now based on all 3 being inaccurate to some degree 5/8 offset front sprocket = golden! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

One with ruler and tape measure. Then with the laser and tape measure and laser and calliper. Looks Like I'm good now based on all 3 being inaccurate to some degree 5/8 offset front sprocket = golden! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
16 Mar 2013 22:49
Offset rear sprocket? Just machine the cush drive hub? You can only go so far before you're into the tire, and still riding the frame. Of course tires are all different. Glad you have a solution now.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
18 Mar 2013 12:50
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
20 Mar 2013 00:18Yup!! So with a 5/8's and around 130 whp do you think I will need the outer bearing support? I would bit the bullet if it was cheaper, but man 500 bucks plus shipping is a lot to spend for that.
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Re: 5/8 offset sprocket measure question
20 Mar 2013 01:02
Being able to flip your sprocket is a huge help :woohoo:
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