KZ1000 steering damper mounting

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 18:11

wireman wrote: hey that black tape had me fooled! :woohoo:

Thats good. it must be working then lol.
i still havent got around to buying a temp gauge to cover it up yet. i've found a couple i like though.

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 19:11

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to me ,just to me only,a weave at higher speeds often imo is 90% rear shock stiffness or just a different shock needed...when i have a weave and i swap the rear shocks .. it not only often in a flash goes away , but is way more fun to ride,which then points out new wobbles...:ohmy: ....a great brand of shocks can still havea bad run or get old and loose their juices,or even new the combo is not right due to the bike or tires or changes to the bikes along the way,or good shock co. get lax and make a few wobbly /flexer shocks, it is a five minute switch and can be felt right away....steering dampners is something i am wondering about before too long myself,the dual disk kz's wobble the forks some...nice friggin bike...wow

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 19:24

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if you can get a hold of a cheap magnetic level(usually around 10" plastic level)stick on bottem side of frame under motor someplace reasonably flat.
then while youre sitting on the bike with it straight up and down have somebody check which way the bubble is sitting in the level,if its sitting forward of that front line id say thats a good chunk of your problem.
when youre laying into it hard most people tend to try and lay into the front end to hold it down which is causing front end to dive even more .the straighter up/down those front forks are the less stability you have at higher speeds .
just something to think about anyway,especially since its only shown up since you put the longer shocks on rear

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 19:26

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i agree with u there Craige,.

. i just swaped out the rear shock on my cbr600 track bike. i had a stock shock, and would get a twitch in the bars during hard accel, i think the shock spring was too soft or the damping was packing down(not commimig back up fast enough). i switched to an Elka last week and the problem went away.

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 20:46

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This is one of them bolt to the valve cover, with a Z1 triple tree. On a 1977 KZ1000.
I bought this bike like this.

Then I mounted 2 - Z1 stock stabilizers on the hot rod just because it looks cool. This is a KZ triple tree, just drilled holes through both sides. Then welded lugs on the frame rails.
Either way you have to modify or fabricate something.

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 22:04

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trianglelaguna wrote: to me ,just to me only,a weave at higher speeds often imo is 90% rear shock stiffness or just a different shock needed...when i have a weave and i swap the rear shocks .. it not only often in a flash goes away , but is way more fun to ride,which then points out new wobbles...:ohmy: ....a great brand of shocks can still havea bad run or get old and loose their juices,or even new the combo is not right due to the bike or tires or changes to the bikes along the way,or good shock co. get lax and make a few wobbly /flexer shocks, it is a five minute switch and can be felt right away....steering dampners is something i am wondering about before too long myself,the dual disk kz's wobble the forks some...nice friggin bike...wow

ok nice info, I did come home and check tires, way low front 28/need42 back 32/need 50, and then put a string on the back tire to front and it was out, fixed that. I have a new set of Harley shock and have then on the stiffest setting, I will play with that next before going down the road of damper. I am going to start a new tread on height of bike to see how off I am.
Thanks for all the great feedback.

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 22:56

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i run 38 r and 36 - 35 - 34 front and stiff stuff

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

29 Aug 2011 23:07

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that is what is says on the side of the tire, I think that is going to be a rough ride. I might back off a little, I was going to check for weavy rear end first.

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

30 Aug 2011 13:28

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I usually fit steering dampers cos I actually prefer the stiffer steering they give. I guess it's what I am used to.

My ZX10R has one (it needs one) My H1-F has one (it DEFINATELY needs one lol) so I will stick one on my 650C1 too.

I just need to source a 36mm fork clamp (I don't really want to drill the bottom yoke like I did back in 1983 when I last had one of these bikes) and will use the reflector mount as I did before.

I think they look kinda cool on those older Kawasaki's too. That alone is reason enough to add one perhaps

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

30 Aug 2011 13:51

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old triple trees cut up make nice steering damper mounts.

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

30 Aug 2011 13:54

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z1kzonly wrote: This is one of them bolt to the valve cover, with a Z1 triple tree. On a 1977 KZ1000.
I bought this bike like this.

Then I mounted 2 - Z1 stock stabilizers on the hot rod just because it looks cool. This is a KZ triple tree, just drilled holes through both sides. Then welded lugs on the frame rails.
Either way you have to modify or fabricate something.

I like the mount

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Re: KZ1000 steering damper mounting

30 Aug 2011 13:56

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trianglelaguna wrote: to me ,just to me only,a weave at higher speeds often imo is 90% rear shock stiffness or just a different shock needed...when i have a weave and i swap the rear shocks .. it not only often in a flash goes away , but is way more fun to ride,which then points out new wobbles...:ohmy: ....a great brand of shocks can still havea bad run or get old and loose their juices,or even new the combo is not right due to the bike or tires or changes to the bikes along the way,or good shock co. get lax and make a few wobbly /flexer shocks, it is a five minute switch and can be felt right away....steering dampners is something i am wondering about before too long myself,the dual disk kz's wobble the forks some...nice friggin bike...wow

ok nice info, I did come home and check tires, way low front 28/need42 back 32/need 50, and then put a string on the back tire to front and it was out, fixed that. I have a new set of Harley shock and have then on the stiffest setting, I will play with that next before going down the road of damper. I am going to start a new tread on height of bike to see how off I am.
Thanks for all the great feedback.

low tire preasure alone is not a cause for concern. it is normal to run tires at 30/30 (or less depending on brand)at the track for road racing. this gives it a bigger footprint, and heats up the tire more due to the tire flexing more.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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