Help! 1981kz 440 ltd

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24 Apr 2012 00:52 #517699 by dub550
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my 81 440 has spark, compression, clean carbs, fuel is getting into to the motor, but it wont fire!! got it to pop a few times using some starting fluid shot passed the air box, but thats it!! it has electronic ignition that I know nothing about, could there be a timing issue? please help me out this is putting my big bobber plans to a back burner and thats not cool!
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24 Apr 2012 01:12 #517704 by Patton
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dub550 wrote: my 81 440 has spark, compression, clean carbs, fuel is getting into to the motor, but it wont fire!! got it to pop a few times using some starting fluid shot passed the air box, but thats it!! it has electronic ignition that I know nothing about, could there be a timing issue? please help me out this is putting my big bobber plans to a back burner and thats not cool!
Thanks
Dub!


Just a wild guess that the timing advancer might be stuck in its forward position.

If a service manual is needed, may click the following link and scroll down to it.

www.kz400.com/WorkshopManFrameset-5.html

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24 Apr 2012 14:34 #517796 by dub550
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I checked the timing advancer this morning and everything seemed to be as it should....anyother ideas?

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24 Apr 2012 15:51 #517808 by Patton
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dub550 wrote: ...has spark...fuel is getting into to the motor, but it wont fire!! got it to pop a few times using some starting fluid....


has spark -- Does this mean visually observing fat blue sparks with the plugs removed while spinning over the engine?

fuel -- clean, fresh gasoline being delivered to carbs?

When is the last time the engine started up and ran?

Any work performed on the engine since it last ran?

Any work performed on the carbs since it last ran?

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24 Apr 2012 18:17 #517830 by dub550
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I cleaned all the connectors and changed plug wires..it now runs but instantly idels sky high..I have the pipes cut and pods.. you seem very knowledgeable! What would you do next?

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24 Apr 2012 19:46 #517842 by bountyhunter
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dub550 wrote: I cleaned all the connectors and changed plug wires..it now runs but instantly idels sky high..I have the pipes cut and pods.. you seem very knowledgeable! What would you do next?

put the airbox and mufflers back on. It's probably so lean it won't run.

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24 Apr 2012 19:47 #517843 by Patton
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dub550 wrote: I cleaned all the connectors and changed plug wires...now runs but instantly idels sky high...pipes cut and pods..What...next?


Would test for air leaks, which are typical cause for racing idle.

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25 Apr 2012 09:46 - 21 Feb 2013 15:09 #517974 by martin_csr
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25 Apr 2012 10:11 #517984 by jeffecor
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Do a compression test on the piston if it not a 100psi its not a enough to start the engine.

Check the valve gap in between the valve cap and the cam...

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25 Apr 2012 10:17 #517988 by Motor Head
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bountyhunter wrote:

dub550 wrote: I cleaned all the connectors and changed plug wires..it now runs but instantly idels sky high..I have the pipes cut and pods.. you seem very knowledgeable! What would you do next?

put the airbox and mufflers back on. It's probably so lean it won't run.


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