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bluej58 wrote: Exchange phone numbers

Great idea Jack! Absolutely without a doubt direct communication is key.

TomW wrote:

Forrest wrote:
Any thoughts, ideas, lessons learned for this year's riders?

After following and participating in this endeavor for 2 years, I've come to the opinion that a lot of the delays in transfers has been the result of two riders trying to coordinate a meeting spot half way between the homes of those involved. I know, I'm guilty myself. If the flag holder just rides to the recipients location and hands the flag over only one rider has to make the ride.

The arguement will be the flag holder has to ride twice as far. But he only has to ride once, to drop it off. He doesn't have to ride to pick it up. Only one trip has to be scheduled. I think this very well could cut delays by a whole bunch. We REALLY need to get this finished this summer by August 4 or sooner.

There are other reasons for a meeting at a" middle " location. Historic significance, moto related site, scenic location etc. That's fine if a meet can be arranged in a short period of time, if it will take more than a week or two to transfer the flag the two riders do not have to meet some place special. Just ride and deliver or ride and pick it up, whoever can ride soonest. This procedure is especially useful if the distance between riders is short. It's silly to keep the flag for an extended period if the flag is only moving a short way. Just my $.02 worth.

I could not agree more Tom. Thank you for sharing.

I think BlueJ58 and Tom have both made very valid points regarding communicating and keeping The Relay Flag moving. It simply comes down to each rider who commits being involved, staying involved, and using common sense. Looking forward to a great riding season and seeing many more postive Relay experience posts.

After 7 months of inactivity, Hopefully the Flag will once again move this weekend. I emailed Schuss and he Really wants to Move it. He feels bad about having it for so long. Once it gets back into Oregon, to Toolmaker I may take it again, then down to Slayer61 in N.CA. I'd love to see more riders get involved. But so far it has been very limited for members to post their wish for involvement. But we will overcome all obstacles and make it happen, the flag Will be at the Rally.

Hi Daryl,

If you do pick it up again to help it south I'm sure down for the ride with you.

Bill

MotorHead,

You may have already tried this, but when putting together the East Coast leg I took out ads on Craigslist in cities where we needed to find a rider. It turned up a few folks.

-Topper

KZCSI wrote: Hi Daryl,

If you do pick it up again to help it south I'm sure down for the ride with you.

Bill

Will definitely get a hold of you for the ride south, if or when it happens.
Are you still up for the 4 Corners Rally? We need a group from our area to attend. I've taken that week off of work.

Topper wrote: MotorHead,

You may have already tried this, but when putting together the East Coast leg I took out ads on Craigslist in cities where we needed to find a rider. It turned up a few folks.

-Topper

No I haven't tried that. There used to be so many people from KZR that wanted to take part in the relay the first year, but as time passes there is less interest. To bad for those who don't want to take part any more, as its a great reason to ride and meet fellow riders, see some new roads even. When you look at the relay map of KZR members, there are lots of people you marked their locations. I try to get those who did mark their location interested first.

Motor Head wrote:

Topper wrote: MotorHead,

You may have already tried this, but when putting together the East Coast leg I took out ads on Craigslist in cities where we needed to find a rider. It turned up a few folks.

-Topper

No I haven't tried that. There used to be so many people from KZR that wanted to take part in the relay the first year, but as time passes there is less interest. To bad for those who don't want to take part any more, as its a great reason to ride and meet fellow riders, see some new roads even. When you look at the relay map of KZR members, there are lots of people you marked their locations. I try to get those who did mark their location interested first.

Bingo! Back when I was seeking KZ Riders for the Rocky Mountain Leg, I looked at the map and actually went through this relay thread for any riders in those states that had expressed interest. I was able to get Kaw-a-holic and even some in the Northwest interested. Sure, there will be several that just don't answer or do not have any current interest. However, there will be some who may not be on here regularly that will check in. I suggest PMing all you do not have direct contact info but have expressed interest. AND, best practice would be to obtain all contact info including phones and physcical address. Good Luck Everyone!

Motor Head wrote: After 7 months of inactivity, Hopefully the Flag will once again move this weekend. I emailed Schuss and he Really wants to Move it. He feels bad about having it for so long. Once it gets back into Oregon, to Toolmaker I may take it again, then down to Slayer61 in N.CA. I'd love to see more riders get involved. But so far it has been very limited for members to post their wish for involvement. But we will overcome all obstacles and make it happen, the flag Will be at the Rally.

Any news on moving the flag? Maybe it would make sense to drop it in the mail to someone who can get it on the road again. Ed

650ed wrote:

Motor Head wrote: After 7 months of inactivity, Hopefully the Flag will once again move this weekend. I emailed Schuss and he Really wants to Move it. He feels bad about having it for so long. Once it gets back into Oregon, to Toolmaker I may take it again, then down to Slayer61 in N.CA. I'd love to see more riders get involved. But so far it has been very limited for members to post their wish for involvement. But we will overcome all obstacles and make it happen, the flag Will be at the Rally.

Any news on moving the flag? Maybe it would make sense to drop it in the mail to someone who can get it on the road again. Ed

Just heard from Shuss, looks like next weekend, end of the month he will meet Toolmaker. Hopefully it will then be in Portland.
ED, are you going to the 4 corners rally?

I would love to, but unfortunately it isn't possible for me. Ed

650ed wrote: I would love to, but unfortunately it isn't possible for me. Ed

bummer

Motor Head wrote:

650ed wrote:

Motor Head wrote: After 7 months of inactivity, Hopefully the Flag will once again move this weekend. I emailed Schuss and he Really wants to Move it. He feels bad about having it for so long. Once it gets back into Oregon, to Toolmaker I may take it again, then down to Slayer61 in N.CA. I'd love to see more riders get involved. But so far it has been very limited for members to post their wish for involvement. But we will overcome all obstacles and make it happen, the flag Will be at the Rally.

Any news on moving the flag? Maybe it would make sense to drop it in the mail to someone who can get it on the road again. Ed

Just heard from Shuss, looks like next weekend, end of the month he will meet Toolmaker. Hopefully it will then be in Portland.

That's the plan. It looks like I will have it Friday.

toolmaker wrote:

Motor Head wrote:

650ed wrote:

Motor Head wrote: After 7 months of inactivity, Hopefully the Flag will once again move this weekend. I emailed Schuss and he Really wants to Move it. He feels bad about having it for so long. Once it gets back into Oregon, to Toolmaker I may take it again, then down to Slayer61 in N.CA. I'd love to see more riders get involved. But so far it has been very limited for members to post their wish for involvement. But we will overcome all obstacles and make it happen, the flag Will be at the Rally.

Any news on moving the flag? Maybe it would make sense to drop it in the mail to someone who can get it on the road again. Ed

Just heard from Shuss, looks like next weekend, end of the month he will meet Toolmaker. Hopefully it will then be in Portland.

That's the plan. It looks like I will have it Friday.

I just talked to Schuss up in Seattle and it looks like another 2 weeks at least till a meet with Toolmaker Might be possible.
Opinions from the Members on if your all happy with it staying in Seattle longer? or would the Majority like to see some progress?
I have already stated that I would take it back again and make it down to Slayer61.
What say you KZRiders?

I say move it along if at all possible. It's been sitting in one spot now since last summer (8 months); I'd suggest that is more than long enough to wait. Ed

get the fucking thing moving
7 months? WTF
I NEVER USE CAPS UNLESS IM FLABERGASTED

650ed wrote: I say move it along if at all possible. It's been sitting in one spot now since last summer (8 months); I'd suggest that is more than long enough to wait. Ed

Since Labor Day weekend, when my friend Dave and I took it to Seattle, with a leg done by Bill (KZCSI), for a hand off to Schuss.
Schuss has tried, and tried again to get a hand off happening, just no luck. lots of discussion last fall about where it might head next. But it has been with Schuss since labor Day.

go back and take it away from this guy
time to move
never even got winter in seatle
WTF??

jeffasaki wrote: go back and take it away from this guy
time to move
never even got winter in seatle
WTF??

Don't blame Schuss for it staying in Seattle for so long. He has made several weekend meet ups to pass the flag. It has been the other rider who for different reasons backed out of those scheduled meets.
The point was to include as many riders as possible who want to take part in the relay. Waiting for people to get involved has made the relay stuck in one spot. I agree with those who want it to move again. Hopefully there Will be a Flag Movement This Weekend. I am waiting to hear back from Schuss as to his schedule for this weekend, and to where he would like to meet, as I Will go get it again, since it seems that it the only way it will start moving again.
Slayer61 is next, down in Lodi CA. Long way away from Bend OR. Hopefully we can meet up somewhere near a half way point. Bill (KZCSI) has said he wants to ride along for the south movement of the Flag.