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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 07 Jan 2017 13:20 #751638

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Hi Leon,
You are right about the tail light bracket, I am gonna change that to something with a vertical piece of metal.

The spacers are the standard length from D&G, I just put the piston against the rod and measured the distance between the hydrailic clutch and the D&G plate.
This was about 5 mm and this is wat I cut of the rod.
Now the unit unit is flush with the D&G plate and the ball of the piston is gently pushing against the rod.
After bleeding the line the springs of the clutch keeps the piston at its place (it is much stronger than the spring behind the piston).
My only concern is that it moves for only 2 mm (see pictures) and wonder if that is enough the disengage the clutch.
Thanks for following my build and for your positive input.

Eric

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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 07 Jan 2017 20:44 #751666

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Lovely work Wiers....I think you may have to harden the end of the push rod having cut off that 5mm. I believe they came with both ends hardened from the factory.
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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 07 Jan 2017 21:53 #751672

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Wiers wrote: Hi Leon,
You are right about the tail light bracket, I am gonna change that to something with a vertical piece of metal.

The spacers are the standard length from D&G, I just put the piston against the rod and measured the distance between the hydrailic clutch and the D&G plate.
This was about 5 mm and this is wat I cut of the rod.
Now the unit unit is flush with the D&G plate and the ball of the piston is gently pushing against the rod.
After bleeding the line the springs of the clutch keeps the piston at its place (it is much stronger than the spring behind the piston).
My only concern is that it moves for only 2 mm (see pictures) and wonder if that is enough the disengage the clutch.
Thanks for following my build and for your positive input.

Eric


What Clutch Slave Cylinder are you using?
Jon
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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 08 Jan 2017 13:39 #751720

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I do not know from which bike the clutch slave cylinder is.
It came in a box of parts with the bike.
I think it is from a Kawa and have seen it a lot on this forum.

About the rod ends, how can you harden them?

Eric

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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 08 Jan 2017 16:10 #751733

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I don't think that's necessary.
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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 08 Jan 2017 17:39 #751737

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It isn't necessary to harden the shaft on the pusher. Drag race buddy who is the local god of Kawi engines says the clutch only opens about 80 thousands of an inch when working properly. You may find another bleed after riding a bit may allow a little bit more air to escape, it doesn't take much to soften the action.
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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 09 Jan 2017 15:07 #751809

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Thanks,
That takes care of one problem.
On to the next....




Throttle cable, Dyna Coils and wiring are all fighting for the same space :angry:
And the winner is..

The fuel tank :pinch:
The fuel tank is hitting my welded braces and does not leave any room in the front for electrical kabels.
When looking under the tank I found this.


It looks that there is an option of welding the rod one point further backward.
Is that for other model tanks??
Not an option for me because if I put it further backwards My seat would not fit anymore.
Only option I have is taking the grinder and start attacking the frame.
And lifting the backend a bit by taping some foam under the tank rubbers.



Also my front brakes started leaking again :(
Taking the day off tomorrow.

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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 09 Jan 2017 15:34 #751811

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I'd be worried about the tank leaking. Maybe denting it in those places?
Steve

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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 09 Jan 2017 22:54 #751837

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How is it with the original coils? What about fitting stick coils? Plenty of room under the tank then.
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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 10 Jan 2017 01:27 #751843

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Steve,
I was thinking about denting the tank a little, will it not damage the inside?

These coils are part of the Dyna 2000 kit.
I will make a bracket which will turn them inwards so that I have more space for the other cables.
Are you sticking to the old points ignition David?

Eric

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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 10 Jan 2017 02:02 #751844

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I had to position my coils under the mounting brackets, It isn't a problem because you can't see/ notice them (on the Z1R anyway) when the tank is fitted. The only time its a pain is when removing the valve cover.
The other issue I found that when the coils are too close together they can cause a miss now and then.
First Permanent ride the Z1R since Dec1977 (220,000km) as of June 2015
Second permanent bike 1989 FJ1200 dyno'd 140RWH, great bike.
Third ride is now the Frankenstein 1981 GPZ1100B1, getting new/ refurbished 83-84 motor soon
Forth my work bike FJ1200 1989 (same type as above)

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Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build 10 Jan 2017 10:10 #751868

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Wiers wrote: Steve,
I was thinking about denting the tank a little, will it not damage the inside?

These coils are part of the Dyna 2000 kit.
I will make a bracket which will turn them inwards so that I have more space for the other cables.
Are you sticking to the old points ignition David?

Eric


Yup,Im staying with the original gear for now.I might change later but I just cleaned everything up and put it back together. It did work before I took the bike off the road.Fingers crossed.

P.S. I just sent you a PM on a different subject.
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
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