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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 15 Jul 2015 13:30 #681017

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Congratulations. Happy days.
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 15 Jul 2015 15:06 #681030

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It sure is! Hopefully I'll be able to go for a spin tomorrow.
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 15 Jul 2015 21:27 #681083

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Fired the bike up this evening and went to tune the pilot circuit with my Colortune unit. Found out that the 17.5's that I'm running don't let me get quite lean enough on my mix, and it shows on the plugs too. At idle, the cylinders are burning orange (too rich) and carbon load the plugs making them all sooty. So out came the 17.5's, in go the 15's, and I'll make an attempt at tuning the pilot circuit again in the morning.
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Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
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converted to monoshock rear
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650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 16 Jul 2015 03:39 #681086

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Nice project! :ohmy:

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Nice and square to the frame and level to the ground. Another thing to check off on the to do list.

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Lots of passengers step up on the peg and stand on it while getting on. Would that weld take the weight? Just something to look out for before someone start dancing on them :woohoo:
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 16 Jul 2015 05:20 #681095

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650mod wrote: Fired the bike up this evening and went to tune the pilot circuit with my Colortune unit. Found out that the 17.5's that I'm running don't let me get quite lean enough on my mix, and it shows on the plugs too. At idle, the cylinders are burning orange (too rich) and carbon load the plugs making them all sooty. So out came the 17.5's, in go the 15's, and I'll make an attempt at tuning the pilot circuit again in the morning.


So how was your experience using the color tune? I bought one but haven't got to use it yet. Sounds like it works well.
Jon
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 16 Jul 2015 05:30 #681096

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Troll- the welds on those pegs should be ok, the mount is about 2.5 inches long, and I sealed it off on both sides. They're also higher up than stock, so it would be awkward for someone to try and step up and over on. I'll keep it in mind for sure, and see what people do. I do ride solo 95% of the time though ;)

Kaw- you're going to absolutely LOVE the colortune! It's such a wicked tool. When I was attempting to tune a few years ago, I was taking shots in the dark and had my pilots nowhere near where they needed to be. This way, you get to visually see how hot the cylinder is burning. It's such a cool thing! But make sure the engine is nice and warm (they say 5 minute warm up), and don't run the bike too long with the plug in place. Overall, you'll love the thing. I'm really happy I invested in it :)
78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 16 Jul 2015 20:19 #681218

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Today's update is that I'm just about done putting everything back on. I got the new rear brake line on and bled it, got the front brake sensor bolt in and bled the front, got the chain on, tuned the carbs more (double checked float height, vacuum synced), tightened up all loose bolts, hooked up some wiring, clipped the zip tie end on all electrical, got the tank and seat back on, shortened the shift lever linkage to lift the shift lever itself.

What I did run into at the last step was the chain hitting the sprocket side cover. I'm thinking I'm just going to cut a chunk of it off... any ideas?

One last thing- i'm currently running stock size pilots, and they're still running rich at 2 full turns out. I'm thinking there might be gunk in the system that needs to work it's way out. As far as i know, i should be at a 17.5 pilot sith all the mod work i've done. Thoughts?
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 17 Jul 2015 00:31 #681254

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What I did run into at the last step was the chain hitting the sprocket side cover. I'm thinking I'm just going to cut a chunk of it off... any ideas?

Hydraulic conversion?

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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 17 Jul 2015 05:25 #681283

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Frig, I wish... I don't want anymore work than I have to right now. I'm thinking I'll mark out on the cover where I should be able to clear the chain, and start cutting...
78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
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1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 17 Jul 2015 12:04 #681371

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Problem solved. For anyone doing a build like this- when all also fails, grab the air grinder. I just had to shave down the back plate of the sprocket cover to get clearance. Let's just say my garage floor has aluminum powder all over it right now... I double checked to make sure i had proper clearance, then fired her up and went for a spin. I forgot how good it feels to ride... and the bike absolutely hugs the road, feels super steady and responsive. I'll get some pics up afyer I get the tire hugger/windscreen/front fender on. But she's road worthy! Minus needing a new battery... the one that's in it was sitting for two years and just doesn't have quite the punch to kick the bike over. As I found out when I went to the store to fuel up...
78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 17 Jul 2015 16:15 #681405

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I had a harder time firing the bike up this morning, so I started with a quick plug check. Two of the plugs weren't sparking to the electrode tip- they were sparking off to the side of the plug even with clean tips. All plugs are NGK as per the book. I've had bad luck with NGK'S over the last little bit, so I started sorting through the spare plugs I have. 5 of the 8 I have are faulty.... out go the NGK'S, in come Champion's to the rescue. I've started switching all of my toys/equipment over to Champions, and haven't had issues. For anyone that's considering this- Champion N3, N3C, N4, or N4C are all within the proper heat range. I'll have these in tomorrow and will hopefully have an easier time tuning the bike now :)
78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
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Re:650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build 17 Jul 2015 18:45 #681432

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650mod wrote: I had a harder time firing the bike up this morning, so I started with a quick plug check. Two of the plugs weren't sparking to the electrode tip- they were sparking off to the side of the plug even with clean tips. All plugs are NGK as per the book. I've had bad luck with NGK'S over the last little bit, so I started sorting through the spare plugs I have. 5 of the 8 I have are faulty.... out go the NGK'S, in come Champion's to the rescue. I've started switching all of my toys/equipment over to Champions, and haven't had issues. For anyone that's considering this- Champion N3, N3C, N4, or N4C are all within the proper heat range. I'll have these in tomorrow and will hopefully have an easier time tuning the bike now :)


I would really like to know if you notice a difference with the Champs.
Jon
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